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Psychic Abilities and Mental Illness
#41
Another interesting read
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue...ack-Bragen
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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#42
(02-23-2010, 10:21 AM)Haunted Lady Wrote: First of all UNR I'm not taking this thread personal in any way. Yes, I do call myself psychic, and yet the things you mention I wholeheartedly believe are neccessary to consider whenever someone claims psychic gifting.

As far as my own medical and psychological history I am totally willing to disclose related information. It doesn't bother me in least, nor do I take any offense whatsoever.

I experienced spirit related psychic experiences from a very young age of between four of five years old. I saw, spoke to and had extensive interaction with spirits...those who passed from this life. Several instances occurred, from the little girl ghost I played with at a local historic home during a movie filming (the story is published on TGT) to my 'imaginary' friend whom I was able to locate death records on as an adult. My mother was witness to these and other other interactions like it. It's also significant that through actual research I was able to confirm their previous Earthly existence.

Noteworthy enough at such a young age mental illness rarely if ever comes into question. Without the activity of the pituitary gland which occurs at puberty, the brain does not have need to balance the chemicals seratonin or norepinephrine as they just do not exist in amounts which would cause issue. Later in life medications containing a reuptake inhibitor can be used to balance brain chemistry making bipolar spectrum disorder and schizophrenia manageable, treatable conditions. These medications given to children prior to pituitary activity can cause devastating permanent injury to the production of these hormones, and are not FDA approved for use in very young children for this reason.

Four hours after my son's birth in 1988 I went into seizures followed by a convulsive coma due to full blown eclampsia (old shool knows this condition as toxemia). I nearly died, and woke from my coma after eight days. During the coma I had an 'out of body' experience and walked in the Heavenly (or spirit) realm with the Creator. He shared with me secrets of this life including my life path. I saw not only angels...but the Creator Himself. It was after this I was as well given the gift of discernment. Years after this I went on to work within and with the church in the areas of faith healing and demonology.

The convulsive coma is pertinent however as this was the time I experiences Heavenly beings specifically. While unconscious two separate MRI's (magnetic resonance imaging) were performed to attempt to discover why I did not wake up...the medical staff had no reason for me to continue to remain in a coma. The first MRI just a day after failing to wake showed a brain lesion in the frontal lobe. Recent medical and scientific studies do prove this to be the area of the brain sensitive, resposible for and affected by visions of angels and demons (as well as other mystical creatures). At the time however...my family was questioned about previous head traumas or IV drug use (there had been neither). The second MRI on the seventh day of the coma showed the lesion to be completely gone. I awoke the next day.

The scientific theory suggests my experience was caused by the lesion. I don't share that opinion. My own theory...my out of body, Heavenly experience was medically and scientifically captured on film.

As an adult I felt burdened by my gifts and struggled for years. I sought psychological assistance more than once and begged to be relieved of a condition I could not understand. I went so far as to attempt to convince mental health professionals on a couple of occasions that I must be crazy. If a pill could fix my unexplainable fore-knowledge and empathic pain I was more than willing. I felt like the doctors weren't listening and turned me out to the wolves.

Finally, I sought help through the church. Through intensive pastoral counseling and inner healing prayer I finally had some answers in spiritual gifting. Ironically it was the church that agreed to refer me for extensive psychological testing, not the psychologists or psychiatrist I had first run to! The results of the testing in fact deflated my last hope, I was in fact medically and psychologically sane. I accepted my destiny and gave over to the calling of the Creator that I should persue ministry.

The only time during this forty year history I was indeed diagnosed with depression it was post partum related after my second child. I did not experience this condition with either the first or third children...and it was short lived. I did opt to accept an anti-depressant with the post partum which I was weaned off of within three months.

Significantly, there is a family history of severe clinical depression. My grandmother, mother and aunt spent their lives unsuccessfully attempting to control their illness. Changes in medications and therapy have failed to help them. I as well recognize that at least in the case of my mother (and then with my youngest daughter) they as well have psychic (or spiritual) gifts. Mental illness and psychic gifts are both hereditary and run in families.

For myself I have spent a lifetime learning to control my gifts, and do actively participate in reality! It is a learned skill to focus psychic gifts, use protections and differentiate between the psychic plane and the Earthly plane. It is a conscious act to interact in each area in life differentially.

Is that where I (and now my daughter whom I am teaching) would be different than the family history? Have we with our gifts learned to walk that fine line? Is it possible so many deemed mentally ill are in fact not...yet haven't learned the skills to cope with their gifts?

Just maybe mental illness and/or depression is not the condition with psychic gifts being the symptom. Possibly the psychic gifts are the condition in a large percentage of the population in question, and the depression and related ilnesses are the symptoms of the gifting.

The truth is you can't even begin to understand the burdens of a psychic if you haven't walked in their shoes.

You are a very very interesting Lady, Haunted Lady. I would love to pick your brain Tongue Hope you are familiar with that saying!! Icontexto-emoticons-08-032x032
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#43
Psychic abilities vs. mental illness is a whole quagmire for me. Some have said that mental illness is a sane reaction to an insane society, and for the most part, I would agree with that assessment. If we can't live and thrive in this world, then other worlds are going to have a pull on us.

All of us are, or have been to one extent or another, mentally ill at some point in our lives.

I'm beginning to think, as others way before me have done, that mental illness is a bridge - not only to psychic development, but also to the integration of our experiences in the mundane reality which we inherit.

I think if a person can integrate and heal from the effects of trauma, and still enjoy their psychic capacity, then they will be a very powerful person indeed. Powerful as in effective. Accomplishes intentions.
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#44
(04-03-2010, 04:43 PM)K2M Wrote: Alexesister, very good post!!! You are right, you have to be very careful about who you talk to about your abilities or gifts. I have mentioned things to docs. in the past, and it depended on the doc. to what their answer was. My neurologist is very spiritual so i can talk to her about anything, and she gets it. Some docs. are straight text book, and dont get it, and dont want to. Those are the ones who want to pile on the meds. so you cant think any more. They dont seem to think of what all of those drugs are doing to your internal organs over time.

I have Multiple Sclerosis, which affects my brain, my neuro. has told me that this can make my psychic abilities even stronger, and it has. I have lesions in my brain that change size and move to different locations, so its very interesting to me on how things change from year to year.

As far as mental illness, i think that many people that are deemed mentally ill, can have very strong psychic abilities. I have recently made a new friend who is a retired brain surgeon and psychiatrist. Its amazing talking to him about this sort of thing.

The problem i have with the whole mental illness thing is, there are so many things in life that can mimik mental illness, stress for instance, hormones off balance, thyriod gland out of wack. I think before a psyc. doc gets a hold of anyone, the person should have a complete physical and blood work up, with thier family doc. or specialist.


I have always had some psychic abilities from birth. They have been much stronger since I was affected with MS. For instance, little did I know, but I made a comment to my husband which was highly accurate. He used to have waist length hair. One day he told me he wanted to cut it. I told him, "Ya know if you cut it, you're gonna go bald!" He cut it and ended up with Agent Orange cancer, which caused him to go bald and eventually lose his life. It scared me and intrigued me into how correct my powers were. I mean, was it just a coincidence. I started going to a noted psychic, first thing she said was, "You know you have powers?" I then took classes on how to read tarot. My instructor also said the same thing. Now I use the cards to double check my "gut feelings". They are turning out more true then not. I also have dreams that tell me what is getting ready to happen. They are very vivid and really stand out in my mind, although not clear. I have to read a dream book to find out what they mean. If the dream really bothers me, they are very vivid and to the point, no need to read. I hear voices, thinking it is my boyfriend talking to me I come in the room asking "What?" He looks at me strange and says, "I didn't say anything". I used to live in a highly active home. I loved it and felt welcome in it at first, then it felt like a curse. I had things flying around and crashing, just to find out nothing had moved. Shortly after was when my husband was diagnosed, then my 1st flare up from MS, which was a horrible one. I couldn't walk, talk, see, use my right side at all. I have recovered better then the neuro's expected. Although with realistic visions. I can't talk to anyone about these visions, except the people that ask me for readings. Then I have a hard time explaining to them why it's happening or why I just know. I have had someone, a female, whisper in my ear very closely. Usually after a death. I can never hear what she's saying, but can feel her breath hitting my ear. I thought it was just me and am glad to hear I'm not the only one with a disability that has strange things and "knowing" powers. Thank You for the heads up! I'm not alone!!!
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#45
(02-21-2014, 01:51 PM)GertieSue Wrote:
(04-03-2010, 04:43 PM)K2M Wrote: Alexesister, very good post!!! You are right, you have to be very careful about who you talk to about your abilities or gifts. I have mentioned things to docs. in the past, and it depended on the doc. to what their answer was. My neurologist is very spiritual so i can talk to her about anything, and she gets it. Some docs. are straight text book, and dont get it, and dont want to. Those are the ones who want to pile on the meds. so you cant think any more. They dont seem to think of what all of those drugs are doing to your internal organs over time.

I have Multiple Sclerosis, which affects my brain, my neuro. has told me that this can make my psychic abilities even stronger, and it has. I have lesions in my brain that change size and move to different locations, so its very interesting to me on how things change from year to year.

As far as mental illness, i think that many people that are deemed mentally ill, can have very strong psychic abilities. I have recently made a new friend who is a retired brain surgeon and psychiatrist. Its amazing talking to him about this sort of thing.

The problem i have with the whole mental illness thing is, there are so many things in life that can mimik mental illness, stress for instance, hormones off balance, thyriod gland out of wack. I think before a psyc. doc gets a hold of anyone, the person should have a complete physical and blood work up, with thier family doc. or specialist.


I have always had some psychic abilities from birth. They have been much stronger since I was affected with MS. For instance, little did I know, but I made a comment to my husband which was highly accurate. He used to have waist length hair. One day he told me he wanted to cut it. I told him, "Ya know if you cut it, you're gonna go bald!" He cut it and ended up with Agent Orange cancer, which caused him to go bald and eventually lose his life. It scared me and intrigued me into how correct my powers were. I mean, was it just a coincidence. I started going to a noted psychic, first thing she said was, "You know you have powers?" I then took classes on how to read tarot. My instructor also said the same thing. Now I use the cards to double check my "gut feelings". They are turning out more true then not. I also have dreams that tell me what is getting ready to happen. They are very vivid and really stand out in my mind, although not clear. I have to read a dream book to find out what they mean. If the dream really bothers me, they are very vivid and to the point, no need to read. I hear voices, thinking it is my boyfriend talking to me I come in the room asking "What?" He looks at me strange and says, "I didn't say anything". I used to live in a highly active home. I loved it and felt welcome in it at first, then it felt like a curse. I had things flying around and crashing, just to find out nothing had moved. Shortly after was when my husband was diagnosed, then my 1st flare up from MS, which was a horrible one. I couldn't walk, talk, see, use my right side at all. I have recovered better then the neuro's expected. Although with realistic visions. I can't talk to anyone about these visions, except the people that ask me for readings. Then I have a hard time explaining to them why it's happening or why I just know. I have had someone, a female, whisper in my ear very closely. Usually after a death. I can never hear what she's saying, but can feel her breath hitting my ear. I thought it was just me and am glad to hear I'm not the only one with a disability that has strange things and "knowing" powers. Thank You for the heads up! I'm not alone!!!

No, you're not alone. For sure. My husband also has MS. It had progressed from relapsing-remitting into progressive (you'll understand what that means), and his senses were muted down. He was having vision issues. Also, touch sensitivity was numbed. And this is when his psychic abilities came forward. The sicker he was, the stronger was his ability. He considers this a weakness, by the way - not a gift or ability. In his case, it took the form of what appeared to be telekinetic activity and empath stuff.

He has since made some changes in his diet and nutritional approach. Also, we have removed a lot of toxins in our lives. His MS is now seemingly almost gone. No drugs. Along with the improvement in his health, the psychic stuff has quieted down as well. As he grows more and more well and normalized, then his psychic intrusions are less and less. And if he gets sick, like with the flu or something, they seem to ramp up again.

Over and over, I have seen the connection between health and psychic openness. And as HauntedLady mentioned, injury to the frontal lobe of the brain being a precursor to psychic ability.

I find the correlation fascinating.
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#46
I too find this amazing which is what brought me here in the first place. I found a forum call Patients Like Me. I was reading some posts which were the same as mine and your husband's. Me being the type of person that needs everything proven to me, I was quite skeptical which brought me here. I am not a believer in God for this same reason. I did, however, KNOW there was something going on in my mind I couldn't explain. I was hearing, as I said before, whispers in my ear from the young age of 3 after I lost my grandmother. I was laying in bed, it had to be early in the morning, I'd say 3:00ish. This lady came for the first time to tell me something, I only wished I knew what she was saying. Since the first time, I've heard her whispering to me many other times through my life. She came to me the last time after my husband's death. I also heard her after my daughter's death when she was 8 years old, hit by a car crossing the street.

I have, as previously said before, had things flying threw the air and crashing, although nothing had been moved. I'm not sure if that was me but... Was I scared? No, I thought it was a ghost mad at me for remodeling the house. Maybe she was. I felt a moody woman in my home, in a dream saw an old man which called himself Nick in a red flannel shirt and bib overalls, carrying a fishing pole with a little boy. They were very sad looking at my property from across the street. It was almost like they were shocked and disappointed by the neighborhood. I found out when first moving in, the property used to be a pony express stop. It was torn down then another built then in 1920 my house. A psychic came to my house and told me I did have a little boy that drowned in a creek or river that was close to my property. Notable that when my neighbor built his house, he ran into an underground river, she did not mention the moody old lady or Nick.

A couple years after my husband's death, I had a lady pull up in front of my house one day. I walked over to see who she was. She was the niece of the original couple that built the house. she said it was the second house built in the area. Her and her husband Nick both died in the house. Who the little boy was or his history, is still and will probably never will be, known to me.

Sorry, didn't mean to bore you. I just thought I was crazy for so long and couldn't tell anyone. This site is the first to hear the whole story.

Thanks To All That Listened! I feel much better now!



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#47
I have had various physic "gifts" since the age of 3/4 and they were more of a curse than a gift for me but it eventually lead me on a spiritual search from my mid teens to find answers. I have never been diagnosed with any form of mental illness/problems but if I had any form of illness it was always more major than minor even things like chickenpox or measles!!!
I've had a NDE (died on the op table for a few minutes) due to an unexpected burst bowel so if I do get anything it's never straightforward. I knew that I would have this type of experience at least 3 months prior but didn't know how or when and for that I'm thankful.
Thankfully all the pieces of my spiritual "jigsaw" has come together for me and I know my path in this life...I also have past life memories.
I am still learning and always will be but it's great for me now.
Like some here I do believe that sometimes these abilities can be inherited, me I had a double whammy from both sides of my family but I only found out about my Gran's (Dads side) abilities in the last few years as it was something he never talked about.
I do feel that particularly in the past there have been many people with physic gifts who have been institutionalized mistakenly.
Thing is who and what defines mental illness.
You walk in the long grass and wonder why you can not see!!
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#48
I think the lines can get blurred. I'm sure some people who were psychic were falsely accused of being mentally ill; and by the same token, I'm certain there were people who thought they were psychic who were actually suffering from some type of delusion.

But, I have discovered that the psychic stuff does exist and is real. So many people do report an increase in activity after a NDE. And if you began life having psychic abilities, this may just have intensified them.

My family has weird little things they do, but no one is super psychic - least of all me! Sometimes, I feel like the odd one out. My father never had any psychic experiences that he ever mentioned - except one thing, and it's funny. As long as I can remember (and he died at age 92) he always would kind of announce, "There's going to be a loud noise." Then, shortly after - maybe a second or so -there always was. It was his "trick." He not only would predict things like loud thunder claps, but he could predict a crash of something in the next room, or a loud bang nearby. It seemed like if it was going to be loud enough to startle anyone, he could warn us. It's weird because my whole life he did this, and I guess it was just so normal, I never gave it much thought except to smile and say, "yup."

These little odd things are just a part of the fabric of living, not signs of mental instability.

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#49
My gran on Dads side died before I was born so sadly I never knew her, but the physic part of her he just blocked as though it never existed or at least he didn't want to acknowledge it, I only found out by accident..(long story).
The NDE did have an effect upon me it brought me closer to understanding my path here and increased the intensity of my spiritual connections. The only issue is that I only get flash backs of it as I was on a ventilator in a coma for approx a week after the op then on high doses of morphine so I have about 2 weeks all together of my life missing. Sometimes I wonder if some of it was the morphine?? even though the death part is in my med records.
You walk in the long grass and wonder why you can not see!!
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#50
(02-21-2014, 05:09 PM)pix Wrote: My gran on Dads side died before I was born so sadly I never knew her, but the physic part of her he just blocked as though it never existed or at least he didn't want to acknowledge it, I only found out by accident..(long story).
The NDE did have an effect upon me it brought me closer to understanding my path here and increased the intensity of my spiritual connections. The only issue is that I only get flash backs of it as I was on a ventilator in a coma for approx a week after the op then on high doses of morphine so I have about 2 weeks all together of my life missing. Sometimes I wonder if some of it was the morphine?? even though the death part is in my med records.
I think you have to leave that possibility open that morphine played a part. But in looking at the experiences one at a time, you learn to discern what is and what isn't on the normal scale.

We can't always know the dynamics. Sometimes, you have to hold onto the bare fact that you experienced something rather remarkable and leave it at that.
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