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Sleep Paralysis / Old hag Syndrome Various Names
#11
I have never experienced sleep paralysis...but I have been attacked by demons in my dreams...and no Dr. TG it wasn't from watching too many scary movies.

I think sleep paralysis might perhaps me demonic....and perhaps in other cases it is not.

I think are various states of dreaming. I think you have your run of the mill dreams that consist of many things going in your life and perhaps what you read about or saw in the days before. Then you have prophetic dreams. Then you have your dreams where you are in a different realm of existence. I believe it is the spirit realm and it is in this realm that you can have demonic attacks, visits from deceased persons and perhaps sleep paralysis as well. For me...an interesting note is that 90 - 95% of all of my dreams in which I was in the spiritual realm...the dream was occuring in the very room in which I was sleeping and I could see everyone else that was in the room and every object in its particular place at the time the dream was occuring.
Oh...and Florida gals...thank you for such an interesting and informative thread.
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11
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#12
No problem Warrior this always seems to be an interesting topic with many opinions. I also believe and have noted on my blog and other forums, that I don't doubt there is a medical sleep paralysis, but I do not believe that when you have your blankets pulled off you, and whispering in your ear, and the evil menacing presence while you are wide awake that it can be labeled as simple sleep paralysis. There is the possibility of something taking advantage of the fact that you are in a helpless state. We were at that time labeling it as SP1 and SP2.

Science clearly states that they are not sure what is happening. They can explain the paralysis, as our bodies protecting ourselves from injury when suddenly awaking, but the rest is due largely to it be understudied a phenomena.

I for one know I have lived an honest life, even adopting a child to save it from a foster home, and do not have anything for "God to slap me around for", so that theory is a little hard to digest.

I do believe there is evil in this world, and we are seeing it more and more everyday (unfortunately), just as there is an increase in Sp/Old hag.

The one thing that has proven to work is prayer. For some strange reason, if you pray while this experience is happening, it stops. I know several people that now sleep with the bible under the pillow to prevent it.

Fortunately for myself, I have not had an episode, in quite some time, but for awhile there, it was almost every single night, without fail, it would happen.

That is why I am doing what I am doing, to help those, that are where I was. Terrified to go to sleep, terrified of my own room. you would not believe the emails I get everyday, thanking me for finding out as much as I can on this topix. The good, the bad and the ugly.

Anyway I hope that something is found out soon more, as it is a terrible thing for people to suffer. One day you are fine and dandy and the next you are terrorized, night after night, and suddenly as it started it stops.
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#13
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#14
Quote:I don't doubt there is a medical sleep paralysis, but I do not believe that when you have your blankets pulled off you, and whispering in your ear, and the evil menacing presence while you are wide awake that it can be labeled as simple sleep paralysis. There is the possibility of something taking advantage of the fact that you are in a helpless state. We were at that time labeling it as SP1 and SP2.

I agree with that! This has only ever happened to me once that I know or remember of and I was wide awake and completely aware of my thoughts and surroundings just before it happened.

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#15
Thanks for all your information on this florida_gals. This is something that I have had a lot of curiosity about...although I do think the one time I experienced was a natural phenomenon rather than a paranormal one.

However, I've listened to a lot of different cases of it, especially since I've been on here...and I have to agree with CT when he says that there is more than one explanation for things like these...as there is with a lot of things.
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#16
(11-15-2009, 04:45 PM)scarygirl67 Wrote: Thanks for all your information on this florida_gals. This is something that I have had a lot of curiosity about...although I do think the one time I experienced was a natural phenomenon rather than a paranormal one.

However, I've listened to a lot of different cases of it, especially since I've been on here...and I have to agree with CT when he says that there is more than one explanation for things like these...as there is with a lot of things.

Oh, please don't get me wrong. I do not think all cases are paranormal, but I think some of them are. There is something very mysterious going on here. That is why I believe that a simple case of normal sleep paralysis has the potential to possibly open doors that are better left shut. A normal case of sleep paralysis does not include alot of things that you have read on here and other places. Back in the day, people were labeled crazy if they even repeated their experiences. The old hag syndrome is just a name that has been used generally for those type 2 cases. The scientific world is on record for the following statement "

"Little is known, however, about the exact brain mechanisms which control sleep paralysis (although parts of the brain stem are known to be important) meaning it is has traditionally been difficult to make educated guesses about why paralysis sometimes remains after waking." Katharine Holden and Chris French"

When you have people feeling like the devil himself is in your room, statements like this hardly give one any comfort.

That is why much more research is needed and should be demanded. I did not have my first SP type 2 experience until I was 39, had a high paying job, attended college for 10 years, and was raising three children, and wamo, this starts happening for no apparent reason. The stories I could tell you would give you nightmares for the rest of your life, that I and others have endured with this so called simple explanation above. It is not enough.

Hopefully by the time I am done collecting all my research which will not be bias fut factual. What experiences people have had, what science has stated, and over all encyclopedia on the topic, to help people understand it, cope with it, and know that they have not lost their minds overnight. As believe me it is worse than any book Stephen King could even think of writing LOL.

At any case, it is something to think about, everything is just not black and white, I wish it was.

Take Care
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#17
hahah clearly WE are all wrong and "That is the right answer"
DR
first of all you probly never experienced paralisis and you probley can not prove it that it does not exist when many people experience it.
WARRIOR ok u are opposite of DR. but DOMONIC come on, so the world is fully of demons and no angels, i freaked out when it happed to me but i cant say it was demonic.
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#18
I have personally never experieced what I believe the definition of sleep paralysis is. My soon to be X-husband has though.
When we were still living together he would come to me freaked out and explaining what had happened.
Mind you, he is not a religious person and of course neither am I.
He refused to tell anyone but me about these experiences out of fear that he would be ridiculed and laughed at by his peers.
He's in his early 50's and hold a position as a regional manger for Air-Gas, so for him people hearing of his experiences would be embarrassing, but he knew that he could talk to me about it (even thought he still felt uncomfortable) becuse he kows I have had many unexplainable occurances in my life time.

Bare in mind our marriage was in shammbles and we didn't sleep in the same bed or room together anymore.
Anyways here's how he would explain it.....
He would be in a deep sleep and would wake up, eyes wide open and very alert to his surroundings.
He said that he was completely paralized or frozen in bed.
He would try to move but couldn't, not out of fear but because his body just felt as if it were pinned down.
He said that he could hear the covers making a rustling sound over him, and what sounded like whispering to him. He would also be broken out in a cold sweat when the room temperature was not warm enough to cause him to sweat.
He thought he was going crazy because he had no explantion for what he was experiencing and he certainly didn't believe in paranormal activity and such.

Eventually, he would be able to move of his own free will, get out of bed and shake it off.
Never during any of these episodes or occurances did he have any recollection of dreaming, nor did he watch horror films or read scary novels. That stuff never drew any interest to him, I was always the one watching and reading scary stuff, he was too ohhh uhhhhh ....uptight for such things.

So, if what he experienced wasn't sleep paralysis then what the heck else could it have been?
Sucks to be me, (pun intended)
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#19
(11-15-2009, 10:01 PM)bleedme Wrote: I have personally never experieced what I believe the definition of sleep paralysis is. My soon to be X-husband has though.
When we were still living together he would come to me freaked out and explaining what had happened.
Mind you, he is not a religious person and of course neither am I.
He refused to tell anyone but me about these experiences out of fear that he would be ridiculed and laughed at by his peers.
He's in his early 50's and hold a position as a regional manger for Air-Gas, so for him people hearing of his experiences would be embarrassing, but he knew that he could talk to me about it (even thought he still felt uncomfortable) becuse he kows I have had many unexplainable occurances in my life time.

Bare in mind our marriage was in shammbles and we didn't sleep in the same bed or room together anymore.
Anyways here's how he would explain it.....
He would be in a deep sleep and would wake up, eyes wide open and very alert to his surroundings.
He said that he was completely paralized or frozen in bed.
He would try to move but couldn't, not out of fear but because his body just felt as if it were pinned down.
He said that he could hear the covers making a rustling sound over him, and what sounded like whispering to him. He would also be broken out in a cold sweat when the room temperature was not warm enough to cause him to sweat.
He thought he was going crazy because he had no explantion for what he was experiencing and he certainly didn't believe in paranormal activity and such.

Eventually, he would be able to move of his own free will, get out of bed and shake it off.
Never during any of these episodes or occurances did he have any recollection of dreaming, nor did he watch horror films or read scary novels. That stuff never drew any interest to him, I was always the one watching and reading scary stuff, he was too ohhh uhhhhh ....uptight for such things.

So, if what he experienced wasn't sleep paralysis then what the heck else could it have been?

paralysis alright . same events just different noises and images, but the same feeling of not being able to move when halfwake
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#20
(11-15-2009, 10:01 PM)bleedme Wrote: I have personally never experieced what I believe the definition of sleep paralysis is. My soon to be X-husband has though.
When we were still living together he would come to me freaked out and explaining what had happened.
Mind you, he is not a religious person and of course neither am I.
He refused to tell anyone but me about these experiences out of fear that he would be ridiculed and laughed at by his peers.
He's in his early 50's and hold a position as a regional manger for Air-Gas, so for him people hearing of his experiences would be embarrassing, but he knew that he could talk to me about it (even thought he still felt uncomfortable) becuse he kows I have had many unexplainable occurances in my life time.

Bare in mind our marriage was in shammbles and we didn't sleep in the same bed or room together anymore.
Anyways here's how he would explain it.....
He would be in a deep sleep and would wake up, eyes wide open and very alert to his surroundings.
He said that he was completely paralized or frozen in bed.
He would try to move but couldn't, not out of fear but because his body just felt as if it were pinned down.
He said that he could hear the covers making a rustling sound over him, and what sounded like whispering to him. He would also be broken out in a cold sweat when the room temperature was not warm enough to cause him to sweat.
He thought he was going crazy because he had no explantion for what he was experiencing and he certainly didn't believe in paranormal activity and such.

Eventually, he would be able to move of his own free will, get out of bed and shake it off.
Never during any of these episodes or occurances did he have any recollection of dreaming, nor did he watch horror films or read scary novels. That stuff never drew any interest to him, I was always the one watching and reading scary stuff, he was too ohhh uhhhhh ....uptight for such things.

So, if what he experienced wasn't sleep paralysis then what the heck else could it have been?

That is exactly what we are trying to figure out. Sleep Paralysis has not been properly studied over the years. The definitions that have bee given in the medical field are by people that have not truly experienced what your husband has experienced. There are a few, that have been willing to go on the record, such as Dr. Hufford stating that these type of cases are not text book cases of SP. It is very frightening, but there are a few things he can try, such as keeping a regular sleeping pattern. Avoid morning naps. Try to not sleep on his back. If he does feel like the occurrences is about to happen, jump out out of bed, and stay up for about 10 minutes.

I would not really call myself a religious person, but I learned in a hurry that prayer seemed to end it faster than anything.

A person can usually move their pinkie finger, so it is best to focus on moving it until he can break the paralysis.

Tell him he is not crazy, that is the most important thing, and he is definitely not alone. I get dozens of emails a day from people that have had terrifying experiences, so do your homework, and you will see there is alot of advice, both medically and supernaturally out there to help.

Good Luck to you both
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