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God’s real modern name is Gap. So says religions and science.
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(02-28-2018, 02:08 PM)Vultyrex Wrote:
(02-28-2018, 01:24 PM)Enemy No. 1 Gnostic Wrote:
(02-26-2018, 02:20 PM)Vultyrex Wrote: Why is this even important to discuss?

Mostly to show theists as well as non-theists that they have reached the same conclusion and should try to recognize that and focus on being good people regardless of the affiliations.

Less hate in the world is a worthy goal. Right?

Regards
DL

Ok. I'll bite with your complete misinterpretation you have here. 

The God of the Gaps is a figure of speech mentioned by Dr Degrasse-Tyson in the video you posted though dated beyond our lifetime. He simply stated that the period of time after a great discovery that where any further development seems out of reach at the moment in time is where they leave it to God until the time where it's picked up again to further the discovery into another advancement. By no means is this figure of speech meant to replace religion or is proof of the existence. It's simply a time span when scientist cannot go further due to reasons beyond them like limitations. Don't go looking into figures of speech or you'll spin into something completely ridiculous like that other video you posted. Most religious people are blind to astute common sense since they rely fully on a supreme being to run their lives for them.

I see you as misinterpreting.

Where did I say anything about replacing religion?

Regards
DL
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#22
Where did I say you said anything about replacing religion?
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#23
(02-28-2018, 02:23 PM)Vultyrex Wrote: Where did I say you said anything about replacing religion?

Read your previous post.

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DL
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#24
You read it. Point out where I specifically said you said it. I love the fact you're playing semantics and completely missing the point of the post. You're looking real bad right now.
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#25
xD Well, this is turning out fun again.

Regardless, I'll first start by thanking you, Gnostic. That part where I said "This is proof of God" was just an example of the type of argument that the GAP believers are guilty of making. Sincerely, you saw that after being pointed to what the intention was and apologized. For that, thank you.

Now, as per your question of "if you were God and wanted to be relevant to people, would you remain absentee or would you show yourself?":

There are a few issues with any type of answer to that question. Of course, we must make the assumption that God exists, first. Otherwise, the question itself is moot. Assuming God exists, it wouldn't matter what it is that I would do. There is a complete lack of information that I have, in comparison to a divine being with omniscience.

Whatever I say that I would do is based on my own personal limitations toward my world-view. I could say that I would because I am an egocentric god. I'd want to be seen, known, and worshiped. However, God is also omni-benevolent. Thus, that type of drive would be beyond him/her.

Inversely, I could say that I would not show myself and would rather remain absentee, because such an pen-ultimate authoritarian presence would undoubtedly coerce people into belief of me. One of the greatest gifts, aside from life, that God has given us, is the ability to freely choose our own paths. Coercion of any type, intentional or not, undermines the concept of free will. It would essentially necessitate a specific outcome, and keep the individual from living their life.

See? Arguments can be made for both sides. The answer cannot be guaranteed to be either, because we have an extremely limited scope of knowledge and understanding of what a divine omniscient being's intentions are. Thus, we cannot judge God based on decisions that we think we perceive, but could be greatly mistaken about. Yet, people do that all the time....
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#26
Thanks to you both for your replies.

Vultyrex

Just for entertainment buddy.

I am a Canadian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f6Y0vD0_Vg

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DL
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#27
With that post ^

He isn't serious about anything he posts. He's now a self-confirmed troll.
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#28
"Most religious people are blind to astute common sense since they rely fully on a supreme being to run their lives for them."

I disagree with that statement.
-DFB

Subject: I have a black cat.
Believer: Black cats are bad luck.
Non-believer: It's just a cat.
Crackpot: Black cats are part of the New World Order government conspiracy.
Skeptic: I can test if black cats are more or less lucky than another cat.
Cynic: You only have a black cat to gain power and prestige.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iIf4tFoyE

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(03-01-2018, 11:50 AM)Darkforeboding Wrote: "Most religious people are blind to astute common sense since they rely fully on a supreme being to run their lives for them."

I disagree with that statement.


Why?
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#30
I think it's because religion and common sense (or logic for that matter) aren't mutually exclusive. It'd be more accurate to say that "most dogmatic people are blind to astute common sense..." because dogmatic people tend not to see things beyond the dogma they believe. Religious people aren't necessarily dogmatic in nature.
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