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God’s real modern name is Gap. So says religions and science.
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(02-26-2018, 03:04 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: No, it isn't that their God is actually "Gap". It's more the supposition that God existence is contingent on gaps in scientific knowledge. That you can argue for God's existence, wherever science has no data to back up their own claims. "Oh, well you don't understand Quantum Entanglement? God causes it. This is proof of God."


Which makes it sound as if religion will disappear when those gaps in scientific knowledge are filled.  It's my contention that those gaps will never be filled.  Some will be, but I don't think we have the capacity to understand everything about matter or the universe.
-DFB

Subject: I have a black cat.
Believer: Black cats are bad luck.
Non-believer: It's just a cat.
Crackpot: Black cats are part of the New World Order government conspiracy.
Skeptic: I can test if black cats are more or less lucky than another cat.
Cynic: You only have a black cat to gain power and prestige.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iIf4tFoyE

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#12
True, it is a huge jump to conclusion. It's a ridiculous idea that God exists because of these gaps/within these gaps. And DFB makes a good point that the implication is that: If these gaps fill, then religion would disappear. I just think that that wouldn't be the case. The religious institution makes too much money to just "disappear", so churches would still be around.

On the spiritual part of religious belief, for instance the existence of God, I don't think that anybody, with the argument based on these gaps, is right. We might never understand everything about the universe, but even that doesn't mean that God exists. The proof for the existence of God must be found by other means, than just lack of empirical evidence. No...even if they filled the gaps, God could very well still be there.
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(02-26-2018, 02:20 PM)Vultyrex Wrote: Why is this even important to discuss?

Mostly to show theists as well as non-theists that they have reached the same conclusion and should try to recognize that and focus on being good people regardless of the affiliations.

Less hate in the world is a worthy goal. Right?

Regards
DL
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(02-26-2018, 02:52 PM)Chevleia Wrote: I have never heard of any science or religion that calls their God "Gap"? Is this a joke? Lol

The point is, that is where science and religions have landed with their Gods, and they should admit that reality by renaming their Gods.

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DL
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(02-26-2018, 03:04 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: No, it isn't that their God is actually "Gap". It's more the supposition that God existence is contingent on gaps in scientific knowledge. That you can argue for God's existence, wherever science has no data to back up their own claims. "Oh, well you don't understand Quantum Entanglement? God causes it. This is proof of God."

What evidence or proof do you have to show this, and if you have no evidence or proofs, why would you posit a supernatural cause and not a natural one?

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DL
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(02-26-2018, 03:15 PM)Chevleia Wrote: Ahh makes more sense now and sounds like a huge leap of a conclusion  Icontexto-emoticons-01-032x032

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E

The faith of fools that is.

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DL
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#17
Gnostic, I was explaining the concept of the "God of the Gaps" to Chevleia. If you're asking for proof of what I'm describing the god of the gaps to be, I might recommend clicking on your link. It does an accurate enough just conveying exactly what I just said.
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(02-27-2018, 12:15 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: True, it is a huge jump to conclusion. It's a ridiculous idea that God exists because of these gaps/within these gaps. And DFB makes a good point that the implication is that: If these gaps fill, then religion would disappear. I just think that that wouldn't be the case. The religious institution makes too much money to just "disappear", so churches would still be around.

On the spiritual part of religious belief, for instance the existence of God, I don't think that anybody, with the argument based on these gaps, is right. We might never understand everything about the universe, but even that doesn't mean that God exists. The proof for the existence of God must be found by other means, than just lack of empirical evidence. No...even if they filled the gaps, God could very well still be there.

Tell us, if you were God and wanted to be relevant to people, would you remain absentee or would you show yourself?

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DL
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(02-28-2018, 01:32 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: Gnostic, I was explaining the concept of the "God of the Gaps" to Chevleia. If you're asking for proof of what I'm describing the god of the gaps to be, I might recommend clicking on your link. It does an accurate enough just conveying exactly what I just said.

I was commenting on your "this proof of God"

Apologies if I misread.

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DL
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(02-28-2018, 01:24 PM)Enemy No. 1 Gnostic Wrote:
(02-26-2018, 02:20 PM)Vultyrex Wrote: Why is this even important to discuss?

Mostly to show theists as well as non-theists that they have reached the same conclusion and should try to recognize that and focus on being good people regardless of the affiliations.

Less hate in the world is a worthy goal. Right?

Regards
DL

Ok. I'll bite with your complete misinterpretation you have here. 

The God of the Gaps is a figure of speech mentioned by Dr Degrasse-Tyson in the video you posted though dated beyond our lifetime. He simply stated that the period of time after a great discovery that where any further development seems out of reach at the moment in time is where they leave it to God until the time where it's picked up again to further the discovery into another advancement. By no means is this figure of speech meant to replace religion or is proof of the existence. It's simply a time span when scientist cannot go further due to reasons beyond them like limitations. Don't go looking into figures of speech or you'll spin into something completely ridiculous like that other video you posted. Most religious people are blind to astute common sense since they rely fully on a supreme being to run their lives for them.
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