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Does Hell Exist?
#21
To be honest though, we've always been living in Hell if we're going by how society is. Witch trials, crusades, manifest destiny, slavery, the holocaust, hiroshima & nagaski, the patriot act.... It sounds more like we create our own Hell and evil.
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#22
Amen to that! It's just a cesspool of horrible events in our past.
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#23
"Hell is other people."

     -Jean Paul Sartre


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#24
(02-13-2018, 06:40 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: Talk to your new Gnostic pal, Ascension then. He believes that heaven and hell have nothing to do with judgment, merely differently attuned energy frequencies. For a stance like that, hell becomes a relative term to describe any level of heaven that isn't as we imagine heaven to be.

I do not see our friend as a Gnostic Christian. His ideology has a lot of supernatural fantasy in it while Gnostic Christianity does not have any supernatural beliefs.

True that our myths are fantasy and supernaturally based, but those are our myths. Not our beliefs.

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DL
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#25
(02-13-2018, 06:58 PM)Ascension Wrote: To Answer this post, We are already living in Hell, just look at how twisted,imperfect and sadistic Society and the world is, we are living in a material plane consisting of infinite complexities and unexplainable functions, this plane holds no Truth only deception and corruption, Ascend your consciousness and see what reality truly is

A good idea that you should undertake.

Every marker for evil I look at is at the best level that we have ever enjoyed, per capita.
Death by violence including war, poverty, slavery, crime. They are all statistically looking good.

In fact, we are so good to each other that science is having a hard time fitting that trait into evolution. We may be more good than what we should be.

That is from an atheist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ADgh3yCSdM

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DL
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#26
Quote:To Answer this post, We are already living in Hell, just look at how twisted,imperfect and sadistic Society and the world is, we are living in a material plane consisting of infinite complexities and unexplainable functions, this plane holds no Truth only deception and corruption, Ascend your consciousness and see what reality truly is

http://www.miraclesinactionpress.com/dth...e%20OE.pdf

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#27
Well 2 Peter 2:4 says "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;" But the original word in this verse for Hell was the Greek Tatarus and, in Greek Mythology, Tatarus, while part of the underworld, is more of a dungeon or prison, not the place of eternal torment that Hell is commonly thought to be.

Chains of darkness could also be translated as gloom and despair - depression. So Earth cold be that prison for an angel, imagine going form a perfect existence to living here and having depression- yep that might be hell for them.

I'm sure there is a place for those that will not be saved but, I'm not so sure it's all fire and brimstone and, physical torture. Hell might be in our own minds, or simply nothingness, aware but aware of nothing. it might be depression with no way to lessen it at all. We won't know unless we land wherever/however those who aren't saved land.
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#28
(02-26-2018, 09:14 AM)Blue Moods Wrote: Well 2 Peter 2:4 says "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;" But the original word in this verse for Hell was the Greek Tatarus and, in Greek Mythology, Tatarus, while part of the underworld, is more of a dungeon or prison, not the place of eternal torment that Hell is commonly thought to be.

Chains of darkness could also be translated as gloom and despair - depression. So Earth cold be that prison for an angel, imagine going form a perfect existence to living here and having depression-  yep that might be hell for them.

I'm sure there is a place for those that will not be saved but, I'm not so sure it's all fire and brimstone and, physical torture. Hell might be in our own minds, or simply nothingness, aware but aware of nothing. it might be depression with no way to lessen it at all. We won't know unless we land wherever/however those who aren't saved land.

Nice, except I stumbled on this.

"I'm sure there is a place for those that will not be saved"

Can I take it that you were just talking of the dogma and not your belief.

If it is your belief that we need to be saved then please tell us what or who we are to be saved from?

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DL
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#29
Don't take the bait, Blue Moods! Don't do it! It'll turn this whole thread off-topic, as we will be forced to come spank Gnostic and his crack-pot cultist beliefs.
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#30
There's no hell or heaven except kingdom or paradise, in other words is called realm.

Demon will call hell is heaven to them and heaven is hell for them, logic?
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