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Paranormal?
#1
Hey Guys out there,

first of all i wanna say, english isnt my native language, im neither from america nor from another country with english as main language, so i hope it doesnt disturb that im not using a professional english.

Im from germany and 25 yrs old and bought an old house, it was built in 1916, so it actually survived the 1. and 2. worldwar. 

Noone lifed in this house for around 40 years. The last person was over 80 yrs old. So it was in a really bad condition, usually a house just to tear down. But i dont like loans by bank so i started to renovate it. So far i built in new electricity, a new central heating system, solar cells on the roof, a wind tube in the garden, waterpipes, new windowses, new floors, and i did it all bymyself. Before i could start i had to throw out many old things. I found things from the nazi time, but nothing that said that the past owners during that time were nazis, it seems they were normal people back then (so nothing special). Ood money, old school notes, old letters, pictures, paintings..and a lot of stuffed animals (eww i threw it in trash) Somehow the last few months weird things start in the house. I had in the beginning an uncomfy feeling but i thought thats because the house looked like a museum to me, like the time stood still. Kinda creepy...in fact it looked creepy my brother said in the beginning i could make a halloween party there and wont have to decorate. He was right, every corner looked creepy, like clown dolls placed on all beds. Now its modern an bright and looks inviting.

I life here since 1.5 years now. I have 2 rooms i didnt renovate cause i was too tired on weekends and needed a break. The doors from that two rooms getting pushed, when i walk up theyr open how i left it. I hear sometimes footsteps upstairs or in the basement, but when i check noone is there. I didnt take that serious i thought its the wind or idk, i didnt rrally think much about it cause im not really a person that gets scared easy. Then it started in the renovated rooms, in a room noone was in cause i cooked and my lil kid was with me in kitchen, electric toys "got used" like a learning toy to press buttons on which say "hand, shoe, foot, socks, heart, eye" things like that. It repetedly did that minimum 30 times and different buttons. I noticed that relatively late cause kiddo was playing with a toy behind me and the tv in the other room was turned on, i cooked and baked and was on the phone...so it was finally after a while that i noticed like "what, isnt that his toy" I walked in the room and it was off, right away. I still didnt think much bout it, i thought the buttons sticked or whatever. But it started with more electronic toys of him, with other learn-laptops, and theyr all new. Also the range hood gone on and off, i thought maybe a bug in electric, but its brandnew with touchdisplay and from expensive good trademarks, then my digital kitchen timer (with batteries) gone on and in alarm mode short time after the range hood gone on for another time. I still kinda ignored that. 
So then last time a few days ago as i was quickly cooking the wooden spoon which layed over the cooking pot flied down while i looked right to it. So i have actually seen how it fell off the pot with no reason. The water wasnt even hot by then. Its an inductions field btw and a ceran field if thats important.

And ya then such lil things like sometimes burning or rotting smell but just for a few seconds. And for better imagine, my house is really a clean and ordered place. U wont find dust, everything has its place i even clean my floor with desinfection, no laundry laying around and no unwashed dishes or anything. Its always perfectly clean so that always friends can come over or family so that i dont have to shame me...so there is definetely nothing which actually really rotts in there, every corner is viewable for me to have it clean is super important.

So and then it sounded like something dropped on the floor in the living room, i was one room beside, as i looked nothing was on the floor, or on the table. Like i said everything has its place and nothing lays or stands around, and i have almost no decoration just a few style elements to make it homely. So idk what dropped there. Until that all i didnt really thought much about that. Just as my husband started saying like "have u heard the doors closing and footsteps or electronics going on sometimes?" And i said "Oh no, not you too." Then i used on my iphone the standard recording which is installed on the phone already, recorded around 5 minutes, and i heard short before it ended a voice on it, and its a hella creepy voice like u d hear it in horror movies. Something u cant categorize or give it any meaning. But in real i didnt hear the voice, just on the recording. And its no emf recording or however that "extra ghost record stuff" is called. Was just the function on my smartphone. 

We dont have animals btw.

Ok when i list up a few things its actually weird that i dont flip out, when i think about all this. Idk why but i somehow ignore it mainly and dont let me bother. It doesnt seem to be friendly though, not even a bit. Was active the last 2 hours upstairs, heard footsteps and slamming doors until i walked up and locked the doors. Idk i feel annoyed and not scared, im too old to be scared, i think always, if thats a ghost, why would it do such sensless things, doesnt it have better things to do in the afterlife than slamming doors and walking up and down and using kidstoys or talk on a recording. Even if its there, it doesnt make any sense to me. And what would it expect, im not a ghostbuster or a priest or whatever. Oh ya and it threw down BluRays. I mean why would a ghost do that, doesnt it have better to do than throwing down my stuff? Or is that funny cause i have to pick it up again? Or is it uber bored? Or wants to tell me that its there? But then what? Even if i finally start to believe that there is a ghost...if it throws down a lil bit more of my stuff or if it talks something understandable and useful on a recording..then what? o.O

I havent talked to it cause id feel stupid if i did. And im not a ghostbuster. I dont know more as to say "Go in the light, or in a shopping mall thats more interesting than my home, or in a fun park, or go check out the universe.

To me, it doesnt make sense to have a ghost around. If it is, how do i get rid of this?
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#2
Document every event by time, weather, what was being done in the home while these thing occurred. Look for patterns.

Older homes with newer construction often suffer from expansion, contraction. Cracks, bangs, pops.

Every home has air currents and they change direction based on outside weather, sometimes several times a day. So doors open and closing as this happens.

Smells can often be traced to hot water heaters or drain pipes, bacteria's and molds.

A good read for you: New house effect
http://www.assap.ac.uk/newsite/htmlfiles...house.html
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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#3
Even more non paranormal answers.
https://www.houselogic.com/organize-main...ad-smells/
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#4
Hallo Kathyli und willkommen im Forum,

It sounds like strange things are happening to you, but there are some questions which needs to be clearified.

First of all: such strange things can happen and are in my opinion not "supernatural". Things can only be beyond what we know.  

(Translated in german: Solche "übernatürliche" Dinge geschehen öfters als wir vermuten, jedoch ist der Begriff "Übernatürlich" falsch gewählt, denn nichts kann Über-natürlich sein, Dinge können nur außerhalb von unserem momentanen Wissensstand sein.)

It is also possible to do something if certain prerequsitites are met. This "do something about it" is nothing big. People always wonder how easy it is. But one after anonther. Every human being is a little different and every human being has a different prehistory.

I have a couple of questions that you can answer. Don't get me wrong I believe you but I need more informations to classify the beeing:

At what intervals did this events happen?

What does the enviroment of the house look like?
Is it in the middle of the forest?
In the middle of the City?

What does your child say?
Were there any happenings around him?

Have you ever used a quija board or something like that?
Would that be your first paranormal experience?

In the following question, I ask you to be honest: what do you think what it is?

Best regards
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#5
(01-09-2018, 06:53 AM)Kilian Wrote: Hallo Kathyli und willkommen im Forum,

It sounds like strange things are happening to you, but there are some questions which needs to be clearified.

First of all: such strange things can happen and are in my opinion not "supernatural". Things can only be beyond what we know.  

(Translated in german: Solche "übernatürliche" Dinge geschehen öfters als wir vermuten, jedoch ist der Begriff "Übernatürlich" falsch gewählt, denn nichts kann Über-natürlich sein, Dinge können nur außerhalb von unserem momentanen Wissensstand sein.)

It is also possible to do something if certain prerequsitites are met. This "do something about it" is nothing big. People always wonder how easy it is. But one after anonther. Every human being is a little different and every human being has a different prehistory.

I have a couple of questions that you can answer. Don't get me wrong I believe you but I need more informations to classify the beeing:

At what intervals did this events happen?

What does the enviroment of the house look like?
Is it in the middle of the forest?
In the middle of the City?

What does your child say?
Were there any happenings around him?

Have you ever used a quija board or something like that?
Would that be your first paranormal experience?

In the following question, I ask you to be honest: what do you think what it is?

Best regards

Hi and thanks for the answers.

First i want to answer the questions.
Its a massive stone building. My husband is the technical leader of the city in public buildings and has two master titels (i cant explain it better u know my english isnt super professional) ^^ So with the building itself its all fine, he would know if something isnt ok, that shouldnt be the problem, if a tornado blows over it u wouldnt notice much of it inside the house) 

The environment of the house, we live in the near of a bigger city like 10 minutes drive away. but the house itself is in a little place with 4 other houses and stays there alone, so they are not built on each lther like in cities or towns. Between the next neighbour house are around 200 meters. So its no sounds of neighbours. Around it is just meadow (hope its the right word) and a lil bit further is a forest, to the left and right, u can see it still but its not near the house. 

My child doesnt say much he is first 15 Months old and he doesnt ever have any unnormal or odd behavior, he sleeps good since he is 11 weeks old, no problems at all. So it doesnt affect him.

I cant say really in what intervalls it started to happen, at first not really often and not that i would have given the things much attention, just lately since the last 6 months, and the last weeks it happens really often. I could say since we renovated really a lot

I have never used an ouija board. 

Its the first paranormal experience i have.

Hmm what i think it is, i dont know, i have no idea what it could be, but my feeling says its nothing good. Since i life here i get all time sick like one sickness after another, serious things, i always get healthy again but for a short time just. I mean physical sicknesses. Like my brainpressure was too high in a deadly level without any reason, i was in a maximum treatment hospital, the docs thought its a braintumor but there was none, no accident, no virus, no bacteria, they couldnt explain it, and much more. For a few weeks and all of a sudden its gone like nothing had happened. This goes since we life here. 
In the house is no toxic material. Its too old that any toxics would be in, just natural materials, and in the new ones we used is anyways nothing toxic. When im out of the house im starting to get back to my old energy i feel better like before. I love this house though, i stuck a lot of money in it and a lot of work too. I mean when my baby slept i installed the electricity in the upper floors, placed new windowses and doors and smoothened the walls placed new floors, so id prefer to not move out. Ya im a little person and i dont weight much but i have a lot of power and can work like a man if i have to. But lately not so much anymore.
What i notice the last weeks that when i am tired and totally finished off from usually nothing and without a reason then my husband is too. Even though we slept good and long enough and when we didnt even work on the house, when we took freetime.

Yesterday didnt happen anything. Half hour ago though. I watched a movie, gone outside to smoke a cigarette, and as i came back the channel was switched, to 353. i defenetily dont watch a tv channel so far in the numbers, and my hisband isnt doing a prank, he is not the type for pranks we are both rather serious persons, he is 34 yrs old and has work tomorrow so he didnt...and he snores in the bedroom apart of that xD 

Well, i can tell you, i didnt believe in paranormal things and i ignored this a long time, mainly because i cant think why a ghost would hang around in our house. I thought about many reasonable explanations. But electronic toys which go on and off or better said the buttons on them getting pushed, and its always other toys, its not like just one toy which could be defect, its more of the toys. Seems like the ghost is a fan of electronic toys cause i dont have floating wooden playing cubes or so xD Ya, anyways, electronic stuff, and it doesnt matter if its on the electric net or toys which are used just with batteries. The only reason why i started to take this serious is cause of this, and then i made a recording. And i didnt expect anything tbh.
If u guys could hear this i bet u wouldnt believe it, everyone would think like "oh cmon someone was there and said something and u used any app to make it sound creepy". Cause it really sounds creepy, it sounds super cliche like a monster of a horror movie, but the thing as i recorded, i was sitting on the sofa and everyone else slept, everything was turned off, no mini sound was recorded for minutes, just relative in the end before i stopped recording, this noise appeared and then it was quiet again. And it wasnt to hear personally, only on the record it is to hear, but really loud and clear to hear, but it was no words. And of course i recorded for a few days ofteners, cause when u record once something such strange u do that automatically a few more times, but the other records are all clear, nothing to hear. 


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Is this paranormal activity, well all the signs are there definitely, but that does not mean to say it is. A paranormal explanation could be as follows but then Im not there to witness it so this is only from what you have posted. You have moved into a derelict house. Usually things start to happen once you start changing things. The theory is that possibly spirit once lived there and have decided that they still do only on the etheric. To them it is still their house. They have not fully moved on and are quite happy on the vibration they are at. You have came in possibily thrown their stuff away and then started to change their house. How would you feel if somebody walked in and started doing that around you lol. Playing with electrical items is easier for them because its an energy they can play around with. I have had lots of times I have had new batteries go totally flat within minutes when entering an area with suspected activity. Yes they could be faulty but not when you replace them with another set and the same thing happens a few times. Also when I have moved out of the area the batteries return to full charge. Back to you, Is this a poltergeist yep but then all that word means is noisy ghost, not evil. If it was angry then you would more than likely get things thrown at you there would be a drop in temperature and also a smell of sulphur could be present. Now all that being said I stated all the signs are there but that doesn't mean it is. If I said that I would be an idiot and not somebody you would want to listen to.
     So firstly you need to start logging what goes on.  Try to get the toys starting up on their own caught on film, recording the noises that are going on around you that you talk about ie the doors banging etc. Try to get others to witness this to back up what you are seeing. Look at each activity and try every direction that could show it to be a natural phenomena. The tv turning over could it of been your child laying on the remote that sort of thing. There are a lot of non paranormal explanations that you have to investigate first. Once their out of the picture you can move on to the unexplained.  Are you near electrical lines, fields from these can cause weird things. Certain circumstances can cause low frequencies that will affect us theres a name for it I cannot recall at the moment. All these have to be taken on board and disproved first before even thinking its paranormal.  If you are quite happy trying things yourself, put an item on a table and have a video recorder aimed at it on record. Ask a question like would you please move this item for me. If it happens great you have some evidence although people could still say you set it up, but you will know for yourself. Trust me if it is a spirit that can move things with pk then they could also choose to interact with you. Also have a recorder going . If you are not happy doing this get somebody in who is recommended to you and not just a group after a free vigil without much experience. Sometimes a quick fix is to simply say out loud when something happens ,  I acknowledge you are there but please stop doing what your doing because its causing issues, or something along those lines. Of course this won't work if it is not a spirit but if it is that could be all it wants and everything returns to normal. The later you have nothing to loose, if no change start with natural phenomena and work your way through with help or however you feel  at ease. If you can get the evidence on film please post it I know lots would like to see it. :-)
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I'd like to hear that possible evp you say you've captured.
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Hi, well i dont wanna do a ghostbuster thing its not my plan to talk to a ghost, and especially not to tell this friends or family, or anyone else of my personal life, because im not looking for people to experience this that i have a "proof" or to place cameras in my home that i have a "proof". I dont need a proof for myself, i only need to know how i get rid of it. And then this topic is done for me.
He/she/they shall go in their light paradise, or in hell, or nirvana, or whatever other died people do. Because i really dont have the time or the mood for a ghost, i have important things to do, like living life, and such things ^^
I know this house will still be there when im someday dead. Easyli for another 200 yrs. So i know someday other people will life in here. And they will throw my stuff away because then its all outdated old crap. Im not planning to hang around here as a ghost. Thats why i dont understand why any ghost would, if i wouldnt do it. He probably slowly noticed that he is dead.

But it happens ofteners now. At dinner today, our induction field turned on and off and on again. Has a touch display, it makes a beeping sound by turning it off or on thats why we heard it.
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#9
In order to know what you have, it's best to listen to it's responses.
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Well i actually deleted this one, it was too creepy. But since u asked i started a recording and i have minimum 20 different noises on it while in real life, again, nothing was to hear. Footsteps, knocks, any electric type sounds, and then breathing, and after at last a dark breathing just for a few seconds, it was the same thing like the last time which i had deleted. I want them u can have. Id rather not do any recordings anymore. Cause that gives me an uncomfy feeling. I didnt expect to record anything u know. I sit here and dont move a finger and record 2-3 minutes, and when i check it i have weird sounds on it.
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