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Do I Have to Be Able to Prove My Experiences Before I Can Tell Anyone?
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I have had several encounters with the "paranormal" I always say that I do not know what the nature of these "things" are. I do not say they are spirits of the dead, or demons, or whatever because I have no idea what they actually are or where they come from. One thing I do know is that they are real.

Does that mean I believe every story everybody tells is true or if it is true that it was really paranormal? Does it mean that I believe everything can be explained as a paranormal event? No.

I think that the biggest majority of experiences that people have can be explained by something mundane. BUT I also believe that some of it is really more than that and would be what we call paranormal.

I had a dream that turned out to be prophetic. I discussed it here on the forum and was ridiculed by several people. I was told over and over that I did not recall my dream and this and that.

I have shared 'stories' of the encounters I have had and saw the same reactions from the same people. I can understand skeptics because I am a big one. It takes a lot for me to believe anything.

Should I be in fear of sharing my thoughts and experiences because I will be ridiculed and/or accused of being on drugs or a religious fanatic? Should I keep my mouth shut about anything I have experienced unless I have concrete proof to convince others with?

I have witnessed miracle healings. I have personally experienced haunted places. I have had dreams that warned me of something that was going to happen. As far as I know I have not actually seen a disembodied spirit that looked like a live person, more like shadows. But I have dealt with them and heard them.

I will talk about my experiences for the sake of anyone who might be interested but I refuse to try to prove anything to anyone. I need no one else's validation to confirm what I know or what I have seen. Nor do I need for anyone to believe me.

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#2
Burden of proof?
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#3
This is not a court room. I have no obligation whatsoever to prove anything to you

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Good one, CareTaker. There are countless paranormal stories that really can’t be explained neatly right away. How can you prove Psychology or Sociology if it is a soft science? I am majoring in Psych and can say while many mentally ill patients suffer delusions, numerous healthy and otherwise sane people, can come out explaining something completely unexplainable. It’s not always about making the next viral video or scary story. It can be offensive to someone that’s trying to find answers on a paranormal forum to be told they are hallucinating or simply recounting a memory incorrectly. Being on such a forum, it is important to be science-based, but respectful towards others opinions of what they perceived. Thanks for the read.
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I agree 100%. while it is great to question and be skeptical, one should not have their experience simply blown off as hallucinations. I believe the people posting on here are in search for an answer, or simply coming to tell their story. That should be respected. To me, part of a paranormal experience is the feeling, you know it is real and that it is not a hallucination.
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I agree with you, but sometimes the answer you speak of is not paranormal and is obvious to anyone but the poster. And people shouldn't get so defensive when provided with an answer they don't want to hear.

Whenever I give a sceptical answer, I try to give an idea of what it could be, or sometimes obviously is, be it sleep paralysis, lens flare, or mental illness based on my own personal experiences. I've had U&R shoot down my own experiences as a fantasy-prone personality and I know it's annoying.

But also, in short, no you don't have to prove anything, but without proof we don't have to believe you either.
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(12-23-2017, 08:01 PM)ThisisDog Wrote: I agree with you, but sometimes the answer you speak of is not paranormal and is obvious to anyone but the poster. And people shouldn't get so defensive when provided with an answer they don't want to hear.

Whenever I give a sceptical answer, I try to give an idea of what it could be, or sometimes obviously is, be it sleep paralysis, lens flare, or mental illness based on my own personal experiences. I've had U&R shoot down my own experiences as a fantasy-prone personality and I know it's annoying.

But also, in short, no you don't have to prove anything, but without proof we don't have to believe you either.

Right on but the fact is that not one single person will ever come to this forum and be able to prove what they experienced to others. It will never happen. And of course you do not have to believe me. I do not believe a lot of what I read either.

Giving a skeptical answer or telling someone an alternate explanation are fine. However, accusing them of being on drugs, telling lies, belittling them with insults, and things like that is unacceptable in my opinion. I have been reading a lot of threads and I am seeing this sort of thing a lot.



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(12-23-2017, 09:37 AM)CareTaker Wrote: I had a dream that turned out to be prophetic. I discussed it here on the forum and was ridiculed by several people. I was told over and over that I did not recall my dream and this and that.

I have shared 'stories' of the encounters I have had and saw the same reactions from the same people. I can understand skeptics because I am a big one. It takes a lot for me to believe anything.

Should I be in fear of sharing my thoughts and experiences because I will be ridiculed and/or accused of being on drugs or a religious fanatic? Should I keep my mouth shut about anything I have experienced unless I have concrete proof to convince others with?

You shouldn't fear expressing your experiences. Experiences, whether true or not, are what make the person. Because of an event (at a specific time, in specific light, and experienced by you at a specific point in the gathering of knowledge in your life), you have irrevocably been altered. That alteration tells us about who CareTaker is.

Understanding that, you should never be ridiculed for your experiences. There is a difference, between critically assessing an event and being a "skeptic" about it.

I don't hold skeptics to a very high standard. There are too many inconsistencies to their process. They claim critical thought (logic-based) and then use sub-par logic to argue it. Then, they try to say that scientific logic is the be-all, and that's just academically wrong.

Don't worry about skeptics. Much like the Greeks, they've fallen far from their old days.

(12-23-2017, 09:37 AM)CareTaker Wrote: I will talk about my experiences for the sake of anyone who might be interested but I refuse to try to prove anything to anyone. I need no one else's validation to confirm what I know or what I have seen. Nor do I need for anyone to believe me.

However, it is important that you understand it isn't about belief. You can share experiences, if all you want to share is how they've changed you. But if you want to try to verify the event having even happened, you are asking for something else. You can't get upset if it gets put under scrutiny. (not ridicule, but measured up to logic)

I'm always happy to talk shop with people, on what could or couldn't be logical. Otherwise, I've wasted a degree. hahaha
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