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Amazing ghost picture?
#1
Making the rounds throughout many news sites is this picture and story of an elderly lady ghost.
Could it be real?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5014437/da...eir-house/
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#2
Personally I say it could not be real. I dont believe it is possible to photograph a "ghost."

The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it. ~ Terry Pratchett

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(12-23-2017, 09:39 AM)CareTaker Wrote: Personally I say it could not be real. I dont believe it is possible to photograph a "ghost."

If a ghost can be seen with your eyes it should be able to be photographed. Unless of course the ghost exists in the mind.

I will add this was a hoaxed photo done in a photo editing program.
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(12-23-2017, 09:49 AM)UglyNRude Wrote: If a ghost can be seen with your eyes it should be able to be photographed. Unless of course the ghost exists in the mind.

I will add this was a hoaxed photo done in a photo editing program.

But wouldn't you need to prove that humans cannot see anything that is in the spiritual realm? Isn't that what science is really about? Proving a theory is not correct?

Psychology Today Wrote:Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. Mathematics and logic are both closed, self-contained systems of propositions, whereas science is empirical and deals with nature as it exists. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. All else equal (such as internal logical consistency and parsimony), scientists prefer theories for which there is more and better evidence to theories for which there is less and worse evidence. Proofs are not the currency of science. --- https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the...ific-proof


You accept "If a ghost can be seen with your eyes it should be able to be photographed. Unless of course the ghost exists in the mind." I ask can you prove that?

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(12-23-2017, 09:56 AM)CareTaker Wrote: But wouldn't you need to prove that humans cannot see anything that is in the spiritual realm? Isn't that what science is really about? Proving a theory is not correct?

Psych. Today put it best, CareTaker. Critical Thinking ‡ Science. (Where ‡ = does not equal) The truth about your question is that science wouldn't know how to approach it.
First off, "the spiritual realm" would need to be defined in empirical terms. That means that the attributes of the spiritual realm must be physically measurable. The very nature of the spiritual is that it isn't empirically verifiable. That being said, no-one should take things personally. Empiricists don't just have it out for spiritualists and theists. They have it out for everyone that doesn't "play" life by their terms. It's kind of the reason why they amuse me so.

Second issue for the scientist is what PT said, "The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof." Logical proof must be objectively attainable and argued infallibly. Evidence is a lot less dependable. It is largely vulnerable to perspective constraints, which means they have to maintain that evidence is repeatable. Furthermore, the very nature of evidence (as a concept) must be objectively proven and infallibly argued, by logic, in order for it to be taken seriously. As of right now, the jury is out on whether or not anything we perceive, at all, is real or a lie. Perception has been proven, but the content of that sensory input is in question.


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(12-23-2017, 09:56 AM)CareTaker Wrote: You accept "If a ghost can be seen with your eyes it should be able to be photographed. Unless of course the ghost exists in the mind." I ask can you prove that?

You can ask, but should expect an unscientific answer, based in objective logic.
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