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Ascension view on the foundations of existence
12-07-2017, 02:02 AM
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Ascension view on the foundations of existence
Here is a excerpt from my under construction ideology, take a look and tell me what you think?. it is in its primitive stages but will be improved and when i reach the needed amount of posts i will link my website for people to see but as of now i will just be discussing paranormal and occult sciences on the forum.

The term Ascension refers to a Dimensional or Conscious state of being in which the Human Being or conscious Ascends to the highest level of Reality and is understanding of everything in terms like the entity of God, a state of pure energy or matter in which only the conscious or “soul” remains and is aware of everything and itself as well as existing in a state that our brains cannot currently imagine from our current perception or is after Death.



Ascension sees it as logical to believe that there might be numerous Dimensions or Realities layering our current perceptions which we cannot interact with or perceive as we cannot understand it or as it is too complex for our current perceptions. By dimensions we mean in the way of how we perceive reality such as 1D 2D 3D etc. Currently we perceive in 3 Dimensions but there is more Dimensions we can perceive in which could give us better/alternate understanding of the reality around us as well as our conscious state.

The Mind and Conscious is the most important tool we have as it is what gives us conscious and free will and perceptions of the reality around us.
Ascension believes that there are a number of Dimensions, by Dimensions we mean in the sense of how we percieve reality around us. We percieve in a 1D, 2D and 3D
state but if you enter higher dimensions you will perceive in a entirely different and more advanced way which will reveal the unexplainable. Think of it like this, An ant is walking endlessly on a giant sphere and will think it is walking in a endless flat dimension and nothing else as it is so small and cannot detect the curve in the sphere, only if the Ant could Ascend and perceive into a higher dimension and see that it is walking on a sphere then it will be perceiving in a higher dimension as it is aware of the reality around it, the same is for Humans we perceive the world around us as it is and believe that the world only works how we perceive it but if we can Ascend, we can realize and be aware of something that is there it will change our perceptions completely in sense Ascending us into Higher Dimensions of reality and enlightenment eventually leading us to the highest state of existence, the state of Ascension.

Technology or Phenomenons that induces alternate states of Consciousness and reality may be crucial to exploring and explaining the Dimensions concept and reality. Technology or phenomenons including Sensory Deprivation, Neural Stimulation Tech (God Helmet), Meditation, Drug trips,Dreams, Near Death Experiences and Paranormal experiences such as Visions, Deja Vu and Divine Revelations are extremely interesting and important as they each simulate states of alternate perceptions that tend to include incredible or traumatizing unexplainable things and physics which cannot be perceived or have logic in our normal human perceptions. They are states or dimensions in which we can feel sensations or see complex geometric structures or colors which are not possible in our normal dimensional states and are results of our Brain being stimulated or interacted with. Alot of scientists tend to say that these phenomenons are simply complex illusions created by our mind and nothing else which is partially true in the sense that our minds create it but they tend to act as if these experiences have no importance and are just a bi-product of the brain and have no relevance which is extremely ignorant as they are the most complex and incredible things that we can experience and have justifications to be declared Divine or Paranormal.

Ascension believes that Energy and Matter is everything, it is in sense God, It is responsible for structuring and creating the perceptions and existence around us aswell as ourselves, Our brain is controlled by Energy such as Electrical and Chemical signals and can also be manipulated using Energy like How the God Helmet (A Neural Stimulation Device) uses Electromagnetic waves to stimulates sectors of the Brain to induce alternate states of Consciousness.

There is Darkness which is nothing, No energy, No matter, No existence, it is by human instinct and perception seen as a sign of negativity/evil as seen by people being afraid of Darkness or referring to a evil person as Dark minded. Then you have Light which is Energy and Matter, Life and the perception of seeing something aside from darkness. Without Light there is no Energy/Matter and there is no Life. Light by Human instinct and Perception is seen to be Good, Divine by Religions and a sign of understanding in terms like the phrase “Now i see the light” or “Enlightenment”. Energy and Matter creates Light which goes on to create everything else including Light and allows to visually and mentally sense the perceptions of the reality around us aside from Darkness. Light activates our stimuli and even when in sensory deprivation states we create our own stimuli and light perceived in hallucinations caused from sensory deprivation.

Energy and Matter which is responsible for the creation of our perceptions and reality is one of the keys to understanding everything. As Humans we have come to understand how a wide range of Energy and Matter works such as Atoms, Electricity,Electromagnetic Waves, Radio Waves, Microwaves, Light waves, Sound waves, Gravity Waves as well as resonating frequencies and vibration. There is still aspects of these forms of Energy that are still unexplainable to us and surely there are many more forms of Energy that we haven’t found or understood yet occurring in our perceptions and Dimension which could lead to important revelations. If we master and understand all aspects of Energy and Matter we could learn to manipulate it in sense breaking laws of physics and manipulating our reality which could be a path to Ascension.
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12-07-2017, 04:04 PM
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RE: Ascension view on the foundations of existence
Hey there Ascension! Thanks for taking the time to explain your theories on existance. Just for future reference, what you explained was less an ideology and more a theory of perception.

An ideology is a collection of ideals and principles that influence one's political or moral behaviour. Feminism, liberalism, etc. are ideologies. Ascension seems like a collection of concepts that are supporting the belief that existence the collective whole of many different parts, in your example: dimensions/realities.

Quote:The term Ascension refers to a Dimensional or Conscious state of being in which the Human Being or conscious Ascends to the highest level of Reality...

My issue with this is that the human being and consciousness (I assume you mean this, as "conscious" is just the state of someone being able to apply consiousness) are unnecessary overlap, depending on your distinctions.

For instance: To me, the human being is made up of two parts: The material facet and the immaterial facet.

You have your body, the physical. Through your body, you perceive the physical world. Your senses involuntarily receive physical stimuli, and your brain processes them to the point of comprehension. The immaterial is the sentience with which we filter these stimuli through our experience and have our own special point of view. There is no material way to measure consciousness. Neuro-scientists can point to the brain and show you electrical signals and chemical reactions, but cannot actually point to the spot in the brain, or measure the proper balance of signals/chemicals, that create consciousness.

To this effect, I believe stating consciousness twice is redundant. Of course, this could just be you trying to be clear about the physical and mental differences. When you can't fully explain the self, it is easier to be that little bit redundant. The overlap can really help, and is why I can voice my issue with your first distinction.

How can both the physical and mental ascend to higher levels of reality, when these other levels of reality are only considered to be a logical belief?

Logic isn't a physical process. Logic is a byproduct of mental faculties, and requires consistent practice to develop.

Quote:understanding of everything in terms like the entity of God, a state of pure energy or matter in which only the conscious or “soul” remains and is aware of everything and itself as well as existing in a state that our brains cannot currently imagine from our current perception or is after Death.

This definitely makes it seem as if there is no physical aspect to these other levels of reality. Being aware and having understanding are both non-physical. So, I am assuming that Ascension has nothing to do with our physical attributes. This complicates things, because existence is only made up of the combination of physical and immaterial. If you subtract one, you lose the entirety of what existence means.

Thus, my critique to you is that you can't actually ascend past a better understanding of the interplay between the material and immaterial. You cannot have higher levels of reality, only higher levels of understanding. These levels peak at where complete understanding of this interplay is.

Thus, you wouldn't be "breaking the laws of physics", by achieving and manipulating a greater understanding. You would be uncovering the objective truth of things, proving that physics, as we understand it, is wrong. However, this can also be measured/proven. Thus, we should have ways of verifying a person's greater understanding. All it comes down to is whether or now we, as a society, are willing to accept it.
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12-08-2017, 07:54 AM
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RE: Ascension view on the foundations of existence
(12-07-2017 04:04 PM)KaelisRa Wrote:  Hey there Ascension! Thanks for taking the time to explain your theories on existance. Just for future reference, what you explained was less an ideology and more a theory of perception.

An ideology is a collection of ideals and principles that influence one's political or moral behaviour. Feminism, liberalism, etc. are ideologies. Ascension seems like a collection of concepts that are supporting the belief that existence the collective whole of many different parts, in your example: dimensions/realities.

Quote:The term Ascension refers to a Dimensional or Conscious state of being in which the Human Being or conscious Ascends to the highest level of Reality...

My issue with this is that the human being and consciousness (I assume you mean this, as "conscious" is just the state of someone being able to apply consiousness) are unnecessary overlap, depending on your distinctions.

For instance: To me, the human being is made up of two parts: The material facet and the immaterial facet.

You have your body, the physical. Through your body, you perceive the physical world. Your senses involuntarily receive physical stimuli, and your brain processes them to the point of comprehension. The immaterial is the sentience with which we filter these stimuli through our experience and have our own special point of view. There is no material way to measure consciousness. Neuro-scientists can point to the brain and show you electrical signals and chemical reactions, but cannot actually point to the spot in the brain, or measure the proper balance of signals/chemicals, that create consciousness.

To this effect, I believe stating consciousness twice is redundant. Of course, this could just be you trying to be clear about the physical and mental differences. When you can't fully explain the self, it is easier to be that little bit redundant. The overlap can really help, and is why I can voice my issue with your first distinction.

How can both the physical and mental ascend to higher levels of reality, when these other levels of reality are only considered to be a logical belief?

Logic isn't a physical process. Logic is a byproduct of mental faculties, and requires consistent practice to develop.

Quote:understanding of everything in terms like the entity of God, a state of pure energy or matter in which only the conscious or “soul” remains and is aware of everything and itself as well as existing in a state that our brains cannot currently imagine from our current perception or is after Death.

This definitely makes it seem as if there is no physical aspect to these other levels of reality. Being aware and having understanding are both non-physical. So, I am assuming that Ascension has nothing to do with our physical attributes. This complicates things, because existence is only made up of the combination of physical and immaterial. If you subtract one, you lose the entirety of what existence means.

Thus, my critique to you is that you can't actually ascend past a better understanding of the interplay between the material and immaterial. You cannot have higher levels of reality, only higher levels of understanding. These levels peak at where complete understanding of this interplay is.

Thus, you wouldn't be "breaking the laws of physics", by achieving and manipulating a greater understanding. You would be uncovering the objective truth of things, proving that physics, as we understand it, is wrong. However, this can also be measured/proven. Thus, we should have ways of verifying a person's greater understanding. All it comes down to is whether or now we, as a society, are willing to accept it.

First of all i want to say thanks for analysing and sharing your thought on my work.

Ascension is to be an Ideology as it will not just be a theory of perception but is soon to construct its own political system and movement based on the morals and principles of the Ascension.

This is of our first publications and it will have anomalies but will be revised and refined in the future, due to the volume and complexity of combining and learning these metaphysical topics it is hard to format it into texts in the desired way and will take time to evolve into the final and true doctrine and or system of thought for Ascension
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12-08-2017, 10:00 AM
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RE: Ascension view on the foundations of existence
Fair enough. I suppose every movement goes through a gestation period. My only recommendation is to embrace it as it is right now. These things tend to evolve naturally, through thought. Where many movements end up corrupting is when they are over-thought. This usually happens through forced thought on subjects.

If Ascension is to become an all-encompassing ideology based on belief, it has to be a truth in reality/existence. These things are the way things are and can't be any other way. They exist independently of us and our logic, if they are true at all. So, it's most imperative that you let the logic behind it unfold, or you could find yourself trying to force something incompatible with reality.
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