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Christian Q&A
06-27-2017, 11:55 PM
Post: #11
RE: Christian Q&A
Strictly speaking, the biblical God does not exist. God is not the Supreme Being among countless other beings; rather, God is the ground of all being, the answer to the question: Why is there something rather than nothing at all? Thus, God's name "Yahweh" is best translated "He causes to be" and thus Acts 17:29 claims "In Him we live and move and HAVE OUR BEING." It is understandable, then, why God 3 times evades requests for His name (Genesis 32:29; Judges 13:18; Exodus 3:14).

But we need to ponder how God responds to Moses after ducking his request for God's name (Exodus 3:14). God prefers that Moses tell the Israelites, "I am who I am" or "I will be whatever I will be" has sent you. In other words, "Don't put me in your conceptual box, but know me by my gracious acts in your behalf. I will be whatever I will be for you. But I reserve the right to be whatever I will be for peoples from other cultures and faiths." Thus, when Israel neglects social justice for the poor, God lifts the veil on His expanded identity:

"Are you not like the Ethiopians to me, O people of Israel? Did I not bring Israel out from the land of Egypt? Yes, but also the Philistines from Caphtor (= Crete) and the Arameans from Kir (modern Iraq) (Amos 9:7)."

In other words, as the ground of all being, God is in a sense providentially involved in the myths and fate of other faith and cultural groups besides the Jews!

But personal perspectives and spiritual development can warp one's experience and perceptions of God: "With the loyal You (God) show yourself loyal; with the pure You show yourself pure; and WITH THE CROOKED YOU SHOW YOURSELF PERVERSE (Psalm 18:25-26)." For the Christian, the ideal way to experience God is as a God whose essence is love; and this concept informs the personal and intimate labels we assign God such as "our heavenly Father."

But this perception must never lose sight of God's warning in Isaiah:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are my ways your ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts (55:7-8).
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06-30-2017, 05:48 PM
Post: #12
RE: Christian Q&A
I'll now reply to Uno's first question more directly. When I toured Costa Rico a few years ago, I learned a mind-blowing fact about the fierce Azteca Ants, who attack and kill Army Ants. Azteca Ants attack any creature that lands on their plants, except a certain type of wren. As our guide explained, this wren eats a type of beetle whose shell is too hard for the Aztecas to penetrate. So the wrens and the ants negotiated a deal in which the ants pledge to leave the wrens alone and protect their eggs on the condition that the wrens eat all these hard-shelled beetles. Of course, our guide was speaking tongue-in-cheek. But such examples of "animal altruism" don't seem totally explicable on the basis of natural selection and genetic mutation. Evidence of design in Nature is everywhere.
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06-30-2017, 08:38 PM (This post was last modified: 06-30-2017 08:40 PM by Kai_.)
Post: #13
RE: Christian Q&A
(06-30-2017 05:48 PM)Deadworm Wrote:  I'll now reply to Uno's first question more directly. When I toured Costa Rico a few years ago, I learned a mind-blowing fact about the fierce Azteca Ants, who attack and kill Army Ants. Azteca Ants attack any creature that lands on their plants, except a certain type of wren. As our guide explained, this wren eats a type of beetle whose shell is too hard for the Aztecas to penetrate. So the wrens and the ants negotiated a deal in which the ants pledge to leave the wrens alone and protect their eggs on the condition that the wrens eat all these hard-shelled beetles. Of course, our guide was speaking tongue-in-cheek. But such examples of "animal altruism" don't seem totally explicable on the basis of natural selection and genetic mutation. Evidence of design in Nature is everywhere.

Sounds like cooperation Icontexto-emoticons-04-032x032
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07-01-2017, 01:48 AM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2017 02:07 AM by Kayt.)
Post: #14
RE: Christian Q&A
Would this be the Azteca Ants? If so the relationship between the Ants & the Wren are not as simplistic as you guide suggested it was. And in fact the symbiosis is not with the Ants, but with a species of very aggressive Wasp.
Research has found (& proven) that because the Wasps are so aggressive the Wrens choose to nest close to the Wasps nests & thus their nests are not attacked by monkeys etc & thus the Wrens young have a much higher survival rate than those of their own species who do not manage to nest close to the nests of this species of wasp. And the Ants are there because the wasps nests are attacked by Army Ants, not by Azteca Ants & because the Azteca Ants will attack & kill Army Ants.
So the Wasps chooses to nest close to the Ants, because they attack the Ants who attack the Wasps nests & the Wrens choose to be close to the Wasp who will attack those who attack the Wrens nests. There is also often a symbiosis between the plants on which the Azteca Ants choose to nest on & which the others thus levitate towards.
Science is often so beautifully simple & logical. And although I would agree with you, when you say, there are instances where evolution does not fully explain the how or the why. Often symbiosis or similar does.

(06-30-2017 05:48 PM)Deadworm Wrote:  When I toured Costa Rico a few years ago, I learned a mind-blowing fact about the fierce Azteca Ants, who attack and kill Army Ants.

Ever been to Kielder in Northumberland? I remember going on a Boat trip around the Reservoir many years ago & the tour guide talking about the Giant Rabbit of Kielder.
The guide said the stories seem to coincide with the Reservoir being constructed & thus with heavy drinking Civvie Engineering workers. However there are stories of giant Rabbits from well beyond Kielder & well away from Civil Engineering contractors.
Also I use to drive an open top Bus on a City Tour & remember a few of the stories our guides told.
So I am not sure that tour guides are the most reliable or accurate people to quote.
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07-06-2017, 07:31 AM
Post: #15
RE: Christian Q&A
Interesting questions and answers. And interesting people too.
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07-22-2017, 11:13 AM
Post: #16
RE: Christian Q&A
(06-26-2017 10:55 PM)Deadworm Wrote:  Who are these strange new posters?
Uno, the inventor of the card game with the same name? Blueud
Kai, the Greek word for "and." I guess that's her way of demonstrating her inclusive perspectives on religion. Frown
Rondele, a new rock group inspired by the the Shondells? Or just a fan of "Crimson and Clover?" Gawp
I am Dude, you road horses at a Dude Ranch, did you? Bandana

Hmmm. Why couldn't you 4 newbies choose a normal confident nickname like mine?

Sincerely,
Deadworm

P. Sl Well, at least Uno poses interesting questions which I shall ponder and address.

Deadworm.. sounds like a spokesman for an ED pill
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07-23-2017, 11:04 AM
Post: #17
RE: Christian Q&A
(06-25-2017 05:17 PM)rondele Wrote:  
(06-25-2017 07:26 AM)Uno Wrote:  This is a Christian questions & answers thread. The questions are to be respectful but straightforward, and will be posed in the spirit of wanting to understand Christianity and Christians. This is the intention and please allow for action to follow the said intention. If this is not for you, please find another thread.

Questions are for anyone to pose, but answers to the posed questions are to be put forth by Christians. I start with question 1) to 8), and the next question is of course 9) and so on for others adding questions. To keep the thread orderly, first quote a question and then provide an answer. We are different people and so not all questions nor answers will be interesting, but hopefully some will be interesting.

Wonder - to think or speculate curiously, desire to know something.
Wonder - to ask yourself questions or express a wish to know about something.
Wonder - to be filled with admiration, astonishment, amazement, or awe; marvel (often followed by at).
Wonder - astonishment at something awesomely mysterious or new to one's experience.
Wonder - to doubt is sometimes a small wonder.

1) I've only just started reading the Bible and so far this is the summarization: the earth and the inhabitants are created. Looking at the world around you, can you see the fingerprints of God? Do you find any indications that we live in a created reality?

2) What is a prayer? Is love a prayer?

3) How does one make an effective prayer compared to an ineffective prayer?

4) As the recipient goes, does it matter if the prayer is presented to Jesus, Christ or God?

5) How often do you pray?

6) What does "pray without ceasing mean"?

7) As a Christian, is prayer an obligation?

8) Can you tell about a memorable experience with prayer?

To me prayer is like a conversation. Not asking for things but more like what you would do if you were talking to maybe an old, trusted friend. The only thing I've asked for is help in removing the block that I tend to get when I pray. ie "I want to get to know you better God, but I want it to be a two way street, not just me talking to you. Please help me to do that."

R

They key to a good conversation is exactly as you stated it "Trusted Friend". See God as this, not better, just a friend you can trust!
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07-23-2017, 11:08 AM
Post: #18
RE: Christian Q&A
I think I'll do my best to answer all eight of these.

1) I'm not sure what you mean by "fingerprints of God", but I'm going to assume you mean that figuratively and as a means to ask whether or not we see evidence of God's creation process. To which, I have to say yes. For the second question within the whole; about seeing indications that we live in a created world, again I have to say yes. Not because I believe in creationism, but rather because we know that at some point, everything in the universe had to have an origin, therefore, it was created by a force we may never understand. Science tells us that the closest idea we have is the "Big Bang" theory, but for there to be a "bang" there must be interacting substances that cause that "bang", which means there was something else already here, but then, what created that? Interacting substances don't simply create themselves, they had to come from something else, somewhere. Science can't explain what was created first, nor what happened that caused that creation in the first place, all science can do is explain it one step further, it doesn't actually define anything as an origin point, whether it's the "big bang" or otherwise.

2) Prayer is a method for one to communicate your thoughts directly to God. It's also, technically, a form of worship.

3) The concept of 'ineffective' versus 'effective' when it comes to prayer is human error. Let me explain: Prayer is for communication and worship, therefore, the very act of praying makes it successful, and by extension, fully effective in it's design. When it comes to the concept of praying to receive something or make something happen, i.e. pray for someone to get better, the idea is to believe fully that said something will happen. Prayer, in that case, is more of a focusing tool to get people in the right thought process, as it is believed that one's beliefs can cause change, especially as part of a collective. A lot of people also think that praying for some benefit is to ask God to do these things, but I personally think that God would rather us learn to take care of ourselves, rather than always ask for a miracle. In that regard, praying for the means to do that is a better idea, and is more likely what we'll get. When one prays, for example; for more money, God doesn't answer by tossing a bag of money at your door, instead, he opens up opportunities for you to earn more money at your job, or if you have no job, then one will open up for you, etc.

4) Jesus and Christ are the same individual. To answer the question; No, it all goes where it needs to in the long run, I've never seen indication to suggest otherwise.

5) Very rarely. I'm not a prayer kind of person, instead, I choose to meditate and open myself to what people might consider "the beyond" or whatever you wish to call it. Ether, if you will.

6) I've always felt that it meant to pray throughout one's life, rather than only praying a few times and never again. Of course, to do that, you'd have to pray rather regularly, nightly, for example, since the act of living in itself is dangerous and could end at any moment. lol

7) I've never felt that way about it. I see it more as a choice, rather than a necessity or obligation.

8) I've never had a memorable experience with prayer. Some people do, some don't. It's one of the reasons I don't tend to pray, myself; I don't get anything from doing it.

I hope that's provided some insight, although I should mention that these answers surely will be subjective, i.e. it depends on who's answering. While I do hold Christian beliefs, they are not the only ones I have, unlike most christians.
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God is not God if God requires worship. God is a trusted friend! Think of it this way and you will achieve much. It is not a "bow down to thee". It is see as eye to eye. All are equal. None are greater. Some may achieve more. Some may practice more. But still we are all equal!!
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08-02-2017, 07:25 AM
Post: #19
RE: Christian Q&A
(07-23-2017 11:08 AM)Raynault Wrote:  2) Prayer is a method for one to communicate your thoughts directly to God. It's also, technically, a form of worship.

God is said to be omnipotent and omni-just about everything.

The point is that God would have no needs or wants that he cannot fulfil on his own. God always does his will as his Omni-everything will cannot be thwarted.

Why then does your God need or want worship?

Regards
DL
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08-03-2017, 07:35 AM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2017 07:37 AM by crossbow.)
Post: #20
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The bible repeatedly warns us not to worship idols and images. These include mental images. To think of a god is to create one. It is just a thought of our own making with qualities and abilities that we give it our self. Such images of God as an old, eternal and all knowing and all powerful man to be worshiped are symbolic images, suitable for preparing children's little minds and primitive people's minds for their later mental expansion and reception of a greater concept of God. We should not rubbish the teaching tools and methods used for children just because know better and use more sophisticate tools and methods for students in college and universities. As a man grows his god grows, but also, as his God grows, he grows. But all enticements to growth must not to be too far ahead of where the person is at, or he cannot grasp them, may not even see them.

God is omnipresent and omnipotent, is all pervasive, ever extensive, and is the sum total of all things, forces and intelligences, and is that of which all things are fragmented or seemingly fragmented. God is reality, is truth, is the sum total of all things with purpose, and that purpose crudely put is the benefit to all things of their living.

Man by, his own choice, by his willingness to do so, has freewill. Not only free choice in that we can select from any option that we can perceive which is horizontal choice, but also freewill in that we can disobey our own conscience, which is vertical choice too. Freewill is the only way to learn and grow, to know for sure, even to know oneself, to experience full realisation of truth and self, can only come by freewill in utter ignorance finding it and realising it for itself, for only experience is knowledge. Freewill is will with an absence of programming. Freewill is the ability to disobey conscience.

The true conscience (not the reflections in the emotional nature which are deceptive counterfeits of the real conscience) is the highest sense within our self of what is good and right to do, by others. Conscience is like a skylight at the inner-upper pinnacle of consciousness. Conscience is like the stalk is where it joins the leaf. Our true conscience is our connection to the great tree of life, of existence, of knowledge. It is our connection to God. It is from where comes in nourishment for our soul. When we align our will, thought and conduct with conscience we enable an inflow of energy. But the energy does not flow down dead end channels, it needs outlet or it does not move through. The holy breath is like the wind, when it moves it exists, when it does not move it does not exist. The heart is the outlet. Love and its subsidiaries is the energy. Prayer is the communion of the soul with God, it is the soul opening and reaching in two directions at once, within and upward to that from which we all extend, and outward through the heart to others. When all the stations of our consciousness and layers of our makeup are aligned, our channels are opened, and in prayer the flow of higher energies descend into our being, in from within and above, from conscience, then down through our self and out through the heart to others. Our breathing tunes with the effort in the right way to help facilitate the flow of energy, for breath is the handle by which energy is manipulated. And so the energies go forth from our heart to benefit others on a level of their freewill, for by their freewill being at discord with their true conscience which is their connection to God, they have sealed off and prevented God's energies coming into themselves from within, but the praying soul can benefit them from without of themselves, to the extent they will want and except that benefit. The energies that by prayer we bring into this world of freewill are the energies of love and its subsidiaries, which have the power to assist others in overcoming their struggles and to find and realise their true nature.

God does not want or need to be worshiped, but if man would find himself and truth, then man should worship God because God is truth. If we would grow as souls, realise our self and attune our self with the greater reality then we need to worship truth. If we have no preferences, or at least recognise them as superficial things, and instead of preferences just value truth, and if we value truth above all else whatever truth may be, and value truth above all else before we even know the truth, then we prime our self to see the truth whatever truth may be, we prime our self to become truth full. The mind becomes transparent, becomes clear, and sees reality as it is, and that is honesty. Honesty is the ability to see things as they are. Valuing truth above all else makes our mind honest, able to see reality as it is, and see more of it, even more than we knew existed before.

To worship something is to venerate it and to pay homage to it. To venerate is to highly value. To pay homage to something is to give of self and time to it. (homo+age meaning man+time)

Truth is all we need worship, but truth is God.
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