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Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
12-17-2016, 05:57 PM
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Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
Hi everyone this is my first thread on paranormal talk . I have many many stories so you'll be seeing me a lot . So I have a question that I have been harbouring for over a decade now . This might be a little long because there is a lot of back story I wanna touch on to get a better understanding before I address the question so bare with me here lol .

I grew up in a very haunted house , the house was about 300 years old and survived 2 wars it was a beautiful colonial style house and was the only one around the area because during the war they were all burned down from British soldiers during the revolutionary war . There's a crazy story as to why our house was unscathed but that's a whole other story . Anyway fast foward to when I was 12 years old the house might of survived 2 wars but it didn't survive us ! Right after Christmas we had a house fire and we lost everything . This sent my mother over the edge who had a crazy obession over the house and property and still does till this day it also didnt help that my little brother died 2 years prior to the fire . So my mom refused to leave the property and demanded we rebuild from scratch . We had a trailer put on the property temporary till the house was rebuild but years went by and nothing was done . Mostly due to our familys horrible luck and problem after problem . Oh and I forgot to mention I'm the oldest of 5 siblings so with my parents and I that was 8 of us living in a 2 bedroom trailer it was hell . My mother became very manic and was now a full blown alcoholic who took all her anger out on me which led to me becoming severely depressed . All I did was sleep for days at a time and this is when I started to experience a lot of paranormal activity and also encountering an entity that I soon started to become very familiar with and I believe this was due to my depression and my weaken state of mind that left me vulnerable to attack . I also started having my first obe or astral projection whatever you wanna call it . I slept on the top bunk and I would wake up at the foot of the bed to see myself sleeping I would then crawl off the top bunk and walk around the room . When I would glance up at myself sleeping I noticed my sleeping self was levitating a few inches from the mattress and I was illuminating a light all around me but there was pure blacknest surrounding my sleeping body and it was closing in on me . I also wasn't alone and could feel the presence of something evil in the room which was the entity . I had a horrible feeling of dread and evil , it was so strong that it was literally suffocating . This I later learned was due to spirits with high energy , because it was happening in my waking life but only when I was alone . I remember one time I opened the door to enter my room and the energy was extremely overwhelming I could not breath and could feel eyes on me . I immediately turned around to exit but it felt like an eternity to just get out of the room like time was in slow motion , pretty freaky stuff. These kind of things happened a lot at this time of my life and the obe became almost a daily accurance. I would always see the same entity during these dreams and obe and it was always after me what makes it creeper is I have seen it in my waking life as well going back to when I was a child but it wasn't after me then . Maybe because I wasn't mentally weak like I was when I was 13 . Alright now let me get to my question ! So my family all have there own stories about seeing me or talking to me when I was not home at all . My dad has seen me walk into the living room and then walking back in my room to then realize I wasn't even home . My siblings have said things like I would open my door and scream at them and then to find out I was at my friends . These kinds of things happened a lot and I always wondered was I astral projecting since most of the time it was at night or was a spirit mimicking me ? We actually ended up moving from the property when I was 15 and started renting and constantly moving to new places and my family still would see or talk to me when I was not home which makes it creeper . Like I said this is something I've been wondering about for so long and it really freakes me out . I would love to hear what you guys have to say and if anyone has had any similar experience . I have so many paranormal experience through my life but moslty at my old property that I believe anything is possible and I'm very open minded to such things . I hope to hear from some of you and what you think . Thank you so much have a great night Smile
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12-17-2016, 06:52 PM
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RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
Hi, welcome to the site!

I'm not any kind of authority on supernatural events, so don't have any explanation for your experiences, but it's an interesting story. I'm sure someone here can tell you something.

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12-17-2016, 07:21 PM
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RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
(12-17-2016 06:52 PM)Darkforeboding Wrote:  Hi, welcome to the site!

I'm not any kind of authority on supernatural events, so don't have any explanation for your experiences, but it's an interesting story. I'm sure someone here can tell you something.

Hello too you as well and thank you very much .
I appreciate that you took the time to reply even if you don't have an explanation , and if no one on here as an explanation or similar experience thats fine too lol. I'm just happy I found this forum because I have sooo many stories that I can't wait to share and that have been bottled up in me for so long . It's almost relieving to just let it all out haha . Can't really tell people these kinds of things without them thinking you're crazy so this forum is pretty kick butt . Anyway thanks again and have a great night
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12-17-2016, 09:14 PM
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RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
Did you or did you not sleep at your friend's house while your family encountered your... 'twin'? If you slept over your friend's house then I think it's possible for you to have been astral projected and your family at home saw your projection. But if this is the case, usually you would also remember 'seeing' your family when it happened.

If you don't remember at all to have 'seen' your family during your visit to your friend's house, then I think there would be some other possibilities other than astral projection. These possibilities are including (but not just limited to); it was your twin (sister) that your family saw-which is not something to worry about as your 'twin sister' isn't something malicious. Or something was mimicking you-which in this case you should be careful as to what motives it has to be doing so.

The concept of having 'twin siblings' is not uncommon in some of the traditional spirituality concepts btw, at least here in my country.

....And for you to have seen something scary (like you've described, seeing blackness surrounding your sleeping body-or even sometimes surrounding 'your other self') whenever you're astral projected is another common thing. If you're still okay, then it was nothing-just be calmed when it happened. I'd suggest you however, if you're still experiencing astral projection today, to learn shielding-to protect your 'real body' so when the next time you 'leave it' you don't have to worry that something else would take over your 'real body' so easily.

My opinion only, that is

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12-17-2016, 09:50 PM
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RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
(12-17-2016 09:14 PM)MaCan Wrote:  Did you or did you not sleep at your friend's house while your family encountered your... 'twin'? If you slept over your friend's house then I think it's possible for you to have been astral projected and your family at home saw your projection. But if this is the case, usually you would also remember 'seeing' your family when it happened.

If you don't remember at all to have 'seen' your family during your visit to your friend's house, then I think there would be some other possibilities other than astral projection. These possibilities are including (but not just limited to); it was your twin (sister) that your family saw-which is not something to worry about as your 'twin sister' isn't something malicious. Or something was mimicking you-which in this case you should be careful as to what motives it has to be doing so.

The concept of having 'twin siblings' is not uncommon in some of the traditional spirituality concepts btw, at least here in my country.

....And for you to have seen something scary (like you've described, seeing blackness surrounding your sleeping body-or even sometimes surrounding 'your other self') whenever you're astral projected is another common thing. If you're still okay, then it was nothing-just be calmed when it happened. I'd suggest you however, if you're still experiencing astral projection today, to learn shielding-to protect your 'real body' so when the next time you 'leave it' you don't have to worry that something else would take over your 'real body' so easily.

My opinion only, that is

And do forgive my English

Thank you for the reply I really appreciate the input and advise . I never heard of a twin , would that be the same thing as a spirit doppelganger?

So in all honesty I truly believe I was being mimicked. Although when my family have seen "my other half " it was at night or when I slept over friends but there were a lot of times where it was during the day . I also have absolutely no memory of visiting my family and from the stories they told me , they said I was really mean like I was yelling at them or I looked cross . I know I didn't mention this in my thread but when I was young and before my house burned down and all the paranormal encounters with myself . My brother and I use to hear my mom screaming our names like she was extremely angry and we would go running to the house both nervous as to what we did for her to scream for us like that only to find out from my dad she was out shopping . My father use to say the same thing but he would joke around and say " god even when your mother isn't home I still here her screaming at me " I remember my broher and I looking at each other like what the hell .
Anyway nobody in my family has seen my doppelganger since I was 16 and we havent heard my angry mothers voice since being a kid . My last astral projection dream was when I was 18 although I've been meditating lately and trying to astral project again but its a lot harder than I thought . The entity that use to follow me has also passed . I do have a few harmless ghost that kinda stick around where I live now but there nothing I worry about .

I really appreciate your input and don't worry your English is fine probably better than mine lol
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12-18-2016, 05:36 AM
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RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
(12-17-2016 09:50 PM)Lilithbathory Wrote:  I never heard of a twin , would that be the same thing as a spirit doppelganger?

No, this thing that widely known as 'Doppelganger' is different than 'twin siblings' I've mentioned. And through my own journey so far, I've found that what you call 'Doppelganger' is most of the time going to be the culprit that mimicked you. And I'm afraid it's something negative in nature.

'Twin siblings' on the other hand, are naturally the positive ones. They looked like you not because they're mimicking you, they looked like you because you are them and they are you (they're your 'twin(s)'-in a way). When you were borned, so were they (thus, they're your 'siblings', also in a way). And they'll always stay by your side to serve as an element of protections or sort for you. One thing that I know of these 'twin siblings' is, they seemed to always be very quiet whenever they appeared in front of other people. Your real twin(s), as far as I know, wouldn't even reply a single question from people, let alone yell at them.

So I'm guessing, something that looked like you but yelling at the people, at the same time, probably is not one of your twins.

(12-17-2016 09:50 PM)Lilithbathory Wrote:  I've been meditating lately and trying to astral project again but its a lot harder than I thought .

While it's true that the choice is all yours in this matter, I'd suggest you to stay focus on your meditation rather than on astral projection. Yes, OBE seemed to be happened sometimes to people like easily, but to learn it, is going to be another story. Don't push it. If there's something you'd like to learn in this path, then it's going to be 'how to protect yourself' rather than 'how to do OBE' or such. Before you stumble over something bigger, that is...

(12-17-2016 09:50 PM)Lilithbathory Wrote:  I do have a few harmless ghost that kinda stick around where I live now but there nothing I worry about .

You sounded so confident, which is something nice to hear btw...

Yes, they'll always be there somewhere around us. Some will remain, and some others will just come and go, there'll always be newcomers on the hood, and some of these newcomers could just be real bad. You'll never know it until it hits you. Again, protection is something important in this matter.
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12-18-2016, 01:04 PM
Post: #7
RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
Hi Lilith, welcome to the site! I am also a new member to the site and have never done anything like this before so your not the only one in that position haha.

First off I want to reassure you that your not crazy or dillusional, I for a very long time felt that way and know how much it can bother you to want to tell someone but know they may think your insane. It would be hard for me to say to you that that feeling will go away, BUT i can say with full honesty that whatever event happened to you will sit with you better as time goes on and you reflect upon it. I hope you can find some comfort in that, as it did with me in a time where finding an answer seemed hopeless.

To lay down a precedent, I want to say I am no scholar in the supernatural forces that bind this world together. The authority I bring to the table comes purely from experience and that much alone, In that I can promise to tell you what I know as fact as I have done it myself (which I'm sure is a breath of fresh air). I don't have much to tell you, but I can tell you enough to maybe narrow down the causes of your experiences. I am an active member of the astral plane and have for more years than I can quantify. To give you a numerical value I can remember atleast 32 years of the top of my head. The reason this is is because I live in both this world and the next within the same "body". Explaining that in itself or my story would be a novel to put it short, but I say this because I want you to know what I am going to say is reinforced by the words of someone who doesn't astral project, but is constantly part of the astral (technically making me a anomaly in cycle of life because I'm "dead"). Anyway, now that I've dropped that bomb I can finally tell you what I have been meaning to and hope it helps you in your journey for an answer (or peace with it in general).

There is absolutely no way that was you astral projecting. The reason being is because people can't venture more than 10 feet away from their bodies without extreme spiritual discipline. people who are alive have what could be described as a tether to their physical body which is practically unbreakable. In all honesty I would say about 5% of people who attempt to astral project get that far, the other 95% can't even break getting out of their bodies successfully. Note this is not a slam on you or your spiritual ability, it's just an observation from the perspective of a "dead guy" ╮(╯▽╰)╭ . The thing that put the nails in the coffin as far as this answer is concerned is that people can't see you when your in there, because your not in the same place. In the astral three rights don't take you back to your original position, navigating your way to a physical part of this world is like navigating your way through a 50 square mile labyrinth blindfolded and foot bound. You would have to have a EXTREME knowledge of the astral world and it's layers, something I don't have and I'm a resident.

In the end to answer your question is it astral projection, I can confidently say no. Like I stated before I'm no expert at dealing with things IN this world, but I do have some tricks and tips if you interested. I would have to know more about the experiences your family had with this ghost or entity or whatever you want to label it to give you some effective methods of dealing with it.

Overall I hoped this helped Lilith Smile, I wish you the best of luck!

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12-21-2016, 03:22 PM
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RE: Astral projection or was I being mimicked ?
Hi. Some of the old ones know me in this forum, jeje, but lastly I{ ve been too hermite, living in the mountains in Argentina, far from the Internet, so I cannot get in here very often, but I like your story and I´ll contribute with something that might help.
I grew up in a haunted house also, and had obe´s and sleep paralysis lots of times, that´s the main reason that made me search for answers and ways to use these experiences to learn about the wonders of perception.
One thing that I have learned is that many times, the OBES or paralysis start when we get scared into a dream and we try to force the process of waking up, what we see when we already woke up into that state is, most of the times, the reflexion of our own soul, many times what we perceive as "an evil shadow" was just a shadow, someting unknown but not neccesarily "evil", that´s because the scariest things for us are the unknown ones, those that we aren´t used to deal with, but if you can calm down in that moment, instantly everything transforms into a more pleasant environment. Everything we perceive in those states is real, but is also a projection, our brain interpretates "the unknown" that is out there and translates it into images, sounds and feelings, depending on how our brain translates the unknown is how "evil" our experience is gonna be. I first started learning that detail one day that I woke up paralyzed and there was a horrible shadow creature right in front of me, and an evil feeling all around the air, but then I counted to ten, thought "Oh, yes, the same thing once again, I am tired of getting scared, this time I´ll just ignore it... The "evil creature" started transforming into a cute shadow, I noticed a little ray of sunlight getting through the window which was bringing this creature´s image to my wall, then I slooowly started letting my astralñ body falling from the bed, once I was out of my body, I didn´t see myself, but walked straight to the shadow creature, willing to trespass it, and then trespass the wall to go outside and have some fun in the astral plane, when I got like at one foot distance to the creature, it was he who started getting scared, like if it were going to get burned with my aura, I walked through the wall and went outside to see things, it was awesome, until i saw my dog, she wasn´t sleeping, but awake and into her body, she saw me, came running to jump on me, then I was scared, she´s aura was huge and electric, when she touched me I woke up suddenly with convulsions like if i had an electroshock....
I have had lots of experiences after that, some of them a little scary, but it is not unknown anymore for me, so they cannot scare me enough, I just end up saying "ok, this again, cool, let´s see what amazing opportunity does it bring this time"

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