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The nature of god
08-07-2016, 03:36 PM
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The nature of god
There are two type of gods, the way I see it.

A soul that is god, eg god is actually alive, or god is only a meaning, and no soul can achieve said status.

If the current power of nature is a god-soul complex, then there will be a great doom fall.

If the current power of nature is a soul-equality god-character complex, then there will be peace and surety in immortality for all.

Which do you think is more likely/current status of nature?
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08-07-2016, 09:25 PM
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RE: The nature of god
(08-07-2016 03:36 PM)anon756 Wrote:  There are two type of gods, the way I see it.

A soul that is god, eg god is actually alive, or god is only a meaning, and no soul can achieve said status.

If the current power of nature is a god-soul complex, then there will be a great doom fall.

If the current power of nature is a soul-equality god-character complex, then there will be peace and surety in immortality for all.

Which do you think is more likely/current status of nature?

I'd like to join you in conversation, but I don't know what you're trying to say.

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08-08-2016, 01:58 PM
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RE: The nature of god
(08-07-2016 09:25 PM)TerraformerX Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 03:36 PM)anon756 Wrote:  There are two type of gods, the way I see it.

A soul that is god, eg god is actually alive, or god is only a meaning, and no soul can achieve said status.

If the current power of nature is a god-soul complex, then there will be a great doom fall.

If the current power of nature is a soul-equality god-character complex, then there will be peace and surety in immortality for all.

Which do you think is more likely/current status of nature?

I'd like to join you in conversation, but I don't know what you're trying to say.

Is god a soul or a person without one?
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08-08-2016, 03:10 PM
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RE: The nature of god
(08-08-2016 01:58 PM)anon756 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 09:25 PM)TerraformerX Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 03:36 PM)anon756 Wrote:  There are two type of gods, the way I see it.

A soul that is god, eg god is actually alive, or god is only a meaning, and no soul can achieve said status.

If the current power of nature is a god-soul complex, then there will be a great doom fall.

If the current power of nature is a soul-equality god-character complex, then there will be peace and surety in immortality for all.

Which do you think is more likely/current status of nature?

I'd like to join you in conversation, but I don't know what you're trying to say.

Is god a soul or a person without one?

Can you define what a god is? On top of that, "god" is ambiguous. Which god? There were hundreds of thousands of them.

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08-09-2016, 09:42 PM
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RE: The nature of god
(08-08-2016 03:10 PM)TerraformerX Wrote:  
(08-08-2016 01:58 PM)anon756 Wrote:  Is god a soul or a person without one?
Can you define what a god is? On top of that, "god" is ambiguous. Which god? There were hundreds of thousands of them.


By god I mean that which is believed to be real.

There are two types of "god" the way I see it.

There is the god that represents simply "a perfect life to live as".
There is also the god that represents "that which has become so".

The first one is quite innocent, while the second one could be considerably bad for others if not done in an environment of fairness.

Qualifying what's been said further depends on "how god is real". I guess nobody really knows the answer to that one.
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08-13-2016, 07:04 AM
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RE: The nature of god
We don't pray to our souls with blind faith. No, our souls is not a God. However, they are the ethereal energy that allows us to live our life in these physical shells of flesh.

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08-16-2016, 11:56 AM
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RE: The nature of god
the soul is certainly a spark of the Divine I will give you that but I do not think a soul is by itself a God
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09-30-2016, 09:59 PM
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RE: The nature of god
(08-08-2016 01:58 PM)anon756 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 09:25 PM)TerraformerX Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 03:36 PM)anon756 Wrote:  There are two type of gods, the way I see it.

A soul that is god, eg god is actually alive, or god is only a meaning, and no soul can achieve said status.

If the current power of nature is a god-soul complex, then there will be a great doom fall.

If the current power of nature is a soul-equality god-character complex, then there will be peace and surety in immortality for all.

Which do you think is more likely/current status of nature?

I'd like to join you in conversation, but I don't know what you're trying to say.

Is god a soul or a person without one?

God is a person with a body, soul and a spirit, He is a real as we are, only difference is He is a spirit being and we are mortal. The only difference between a spirit being and a flesh and bone being is substance. He is immortal and we are temporarily mortal.

here is what I learnt over many years trying to disprove the Bible.

We are exact replicas of God only mortal. God said, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (Gen. 1:26).

I believe what read in God's Word, teaches us that God has a body with bodily parts, hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, hair, that He speaks, listens, has a heart, eats food etc. I have listed here many Scriptures which shows this and many more can be found. Many Catholic believers I have spoken with regarding these Scriptures do not believe them because it is contrary to their belief that God can be reduced to a sliver of bread and held in a monstrance or tabernacle and be litteraly eaten every day by millions of them, sometimes twice a day.

God has a spirit body with bodily parts like a man. This is proved by hundreds of Scriptures that do not need interpretation. God is a Spirit being, infinate, eternal, immutable, self-existent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, invisible, impartial, immortal, absolutely holy, full of wisdom, full of knowledge, and just in all things. God is known in Scripture by over two hundred names. He is describes as being like any other person as to having a body, soul, and spirit (Job 13:8; Heb. 1:3; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-7). He is a spirit being with a body (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6, 9-19, Exodus 24:11; Gen. 18' 32:24-32; Ezek. 1:26-28; Acts 7:54-59; Rev. 4:2-4; 5:1, 5-7; 22:4-5); shape (John 5:37); form (Phil. 2:5-7, same Greek word as in Mark 16:12, which refers to bodily form); and an image and likeness of a man (Gen. 1:26; 9:6; Ezek. 1:26-28; 1 Cor. 11:7; jas. 3:9; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6).

He has a heart (Gen. 6:6; 8:21); hands and fingers (Exod. 31:18; Psalms 8:3-6; Rev. 5:1, 6-7); Nostrils (Ps. 18:8); mouth (Num. 12:8); lips and tongue (Isa. 30:27; feet (Ezek. 1:27; Exodus 24:10); eyes, eyelids, sight (Ps. 11:4; 18:24; 33:18); voice (Ps. 29; Rev. 10:3-4; Gen. 1); breath (Gen. 2:70; ears (Ps. 18:6); head, hair, face, arms (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-19; Rev. 5:1; loins (Ezek. 1:26:28; 8:1-4); bodily presence (Gen. 3:8; 18:1-22; Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7; Exodus 24:10-11); and many other bodily parts as required by Him to be a person with a body.

God goes from place to place just like any one else (Gen. 3:8; 11:5; 18:1-22, 33; 19:24; 32:24-32; 35:13; Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:13). God is omnipresent but not omni body, that is His presence can be felt everywhere but His body is not everywhere. God wears cloths (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-19; God eats food (Gen. 18:1-22; Exodus 24:11).

There is not one Scripture in the Bible which states that God is intangible, immaterial, without a body, or bodily parts, and passions except John 4:24, "God is a spirit," and this certainly does not teach that He is without a body.

Paul speaks of the human flesh and bone bodies in the resurrection as being "Spiritual" (1 Cor. 15:42-44), like unto Christs glorious body (Luke 24:39; Phil. 3:20-21); so if human bodies that become spiritualized are still material and tangible, then certainly God and other spirits have bodies just as real and still be spirit beings. John 4:24 is a statement of fact that God is a Spirit, but it does not define or analyze a spirit.

Checkout Genesis, chapter one. God had been busy for a number of days during that re-creation week, (Notice I said re-creation week, there is a reason which i will explain later), making various CREATURES of the land, sea, and air. Nothing is said about them having the form of God Himself. After all those creatures were created notice what God says in verses 26,27, "....Let us MAKE MAN in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS.. ..So God created MAN in His OWN IMAGE, in the IMAGE OF GOD created he him; male and female...."

Right at the very beginning of the Bible, the Eternal God tells us that He created mankind in, not the likeness or image of the angels or any other spirit being, but He formed and gave mankind the IMAGE or LIKENESS of HIMSELF. God took the dirt of the ground and molded the shape and form of man from it to resemble the image or shape of very GOD.

God first revealed Himself in a mighty way to Moses from the burning bush. From that time on the Eternal and Moses were friends with a "buddy-buddy" relationship. This relationship between the Lord and Moses was so personal that it is recorded, "And the Lord spoke unto Moses FACE to FACE, as a man speaks unto a friend...."(Ex.33:11). Now our "no body" for God teachers will say either this is just a metaphor or God appeared as a human, but when in the "spirit" He has no body or face. Of course that is the answer they will give to any section of scripture where God appeared to men. But there was a time when God appeared to Moses IN THE SPIRIT FORM - the Lord opening up his eyes to see Himself in the spirit dimension, that the human eye can not
usually see, Read the example of the servant of Elisha in 2 Kings 6.

So close a relationship did Moses have with God that Moses was so bold as to ask the Lord to show Himself to him, not as a human but as He really IS. Moses' request is found in Exodus 33:18. Notice the reply from the Eternal: "....You can not SEE MY FACE; for no man can see me and
live."(verse 20). God did not say to Moses that He did not have a body and so did not have a face and so could not show Himself in the spirit form as having a shape. To the CONTRARY, the answer to Moses SHOWS CLEARLY GOD DOES HAVE A FACE AND BODY! He told Moses that no man could look upon the face of God in spirit form and live. How simpler can the word of God be in this matter? No theological degree needed to understand this verse, just believe it for what it says. In Exodus 33 18, Moses asked God to show him His Glory. "And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory." And God said to Moses; "I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; etc. God also said to Moses, "Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." Exodus 33:18-20.

Moses asked to see God's glory as expressed in His face or countenance, not to see His face apart from His glory. That Moses could have seen God's literal face is clearly stated in verse 11, where it says, "And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face as a man speaketh unto his friend, and that he had seen Gods glory in a limited sense is clear from Exodus 16:10; and 24:17; so the request was for something he had not uet seen. Many others have also seen Gods face and spirit body apart from the glory of God.

Regarding the impossibility of man beholding the face of God when He "dwells in a light whom no man has seen nor can see" (1 Tim. 6:16, Moses became an example of this himself when his face could not be looked upon by the people, Israel, because of its brightness (Exodus 34:29-35; and 2 Cor. 3:6-18). God showed Moses His glory as expressed in His back parts, or the glorious after effects and glimpse of the glory after it had passed by (Verse 20-23). God gave Moses a further revelation of His character and infinate nature in, (Verse 19). The Hebrew word for goodness is "tuwb," superlative good; the best of a person; and absolute beauty. This referes to the infinate beauty or glory of God which was to pass before Moses while he was hidden in the cleft of the rock (Verse 22).

Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE and lived! "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved" (Gen. 32:30). Abraham made a dinner for God and two angels and they ate food (Gen. 18). Moses talked with God face to face (Exodus 33:11-23). Seventy four elders had a banquet with God in Sinai (Exodus 24:9-11). Joshua and all Israel saw God with a sword in His hand (Josh. 5:13-15).

Gidion (Judg. 6:11-23), Manoah and wife (Judg. 13:3-23), David (1 Chron. 21:16-17), Job (42:5), Isaiah (6:1-13), Amos (9:1), and others saw God standing on the ground, sitting on thrones, and having a body with bodily parts like a man. Ezekiel saw God on a chariot and described Him as having an "appearance of a man" with loins and the upper and lower parts of a body like a man (Ezek 1:26-28; 10:1, 20; 40:3). Daniel saw both God the Father and the Son of man as two separate beiongs at the same time and at the same place. God was on a throne, and had on white cloths, and His hair was white. The Son of man also had a body, had cloths on, and had hair on His head (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6). Stephen saw both God and Christ at the same time and place with the same eyes (Acts 7:56-59).

Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I won't pass it by, I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

2 Samule 3:28, These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains;
The same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.
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