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Reading the Room
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And yet we do. I don't know why. Hobbes once said that we all do it because we are always inherently more interested in our own personal gain. People believe the actual quote is "man is inherently evil", but that isn't true. I think there is a lot of clout in the idea that people are first-and-foremost interested in their own lives and that of their children, than that of other people.

Why I consider myself a Kantian, over other moral systems, is because it leaves room for the notion that we are firstly self-involved and then we apply logic to situations in order to discover the moral path. The people, who don't have that measure of balance, responsibility and restraint, are the people who lack the utility of a moral system.

This is separate from narcissists, sociopaths, and Machiavellians. For instance, I am a narcissist. I won't argue that I'm not. However, I understand that the proper application of logic is required in order for proper moral interaction. While I'd love everything to be about me, it logically isn't. Thus, I'll get more use out of respecting other people's skills, than I will thinking I'm just better than everyone at everything.
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Ooo, there goes my spinning head [holds head in hands]... Didn't major in philosophy; only business studies. I can do a break-even analysis and tell you if a business is going to show a profit. Or devise a practical debt recovery strategy for aged debt. But the infinite workings of the human mind is a luxury I've not had the opportunity to spend much time on.

Since you've brought it up, I've read up a bit on Immanuel Kant and Kantian ethics, and his system of transcendental idealism. But then I got sidetracked by Arthur Schopenhauer who expanded on Kant's approach to metaphysics. Schopenhauer appeals more to me in how he believes that nothing is without a reason for being. I'll have to read more and mull over what they both say for a while before I can make any coherent sense of it.

Just an observation: you may be doing yourself a disservice with the definition of being a "narcissist". I've lived with one extreme example and worked with a few others. Which is why I have an ex and no longer work at a toxic environment. Most people will display a few narcissistic traits, but not to the extent of a full-blown clinical disorder. The occasional selfie, the need to preen or brag about some exploit (just a little) is understandably human and natural. I think a modest dose of self-love and self-awareness is healthy for our own preservation. It stops us from being too easily manipulated and exploited by more predatory types.

The fact that you recognise the need for "respecting other people's skills" shows a degree of constructive social interaction. You acknowledge that it's not always about you. A true narcissist isn't capable of sharing the limelight or making room for anyone else's needs apart from his/her own.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health...e7f95ee4d1
https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/...aslighters

While I understand the need for people to look to their own interests first, it's the greed and excess that troubles me. When the wanting spills over into envy and covetousness. To wanting what others have and the deliberate ploys and scams to exert undue influence over others, so as to gain an ill-gotten advantage at their expense. Icontexto-emoticons-14-032x032
There's life...and then there's the afterlife.
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