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Ghost hunting equipment debunked
#11
CDS how many homes have your team told they were haunted and if you had some what proof did you have?
I find it amazing at in 2006 -2008 teams made claims of paranormal at maybe 1 in 100 investigations. But with all the TV based shows they claim it in almost all of them now. We see teams post investigation tonight we expect to capture lots of evidence. That lots of evidence is poor photography, poor understanding equipment or personal feelings. But of course you will not see a problem as you want paranormal to exist without looking for non paranormal causes. As I have said before show me proof that does not have an explainable cause. Not I saw this or felt this, as we know the mistakes the human mind makes.
A teething or child with colic is called demonic. Poor photography is called paranormal. A k2 being set off by any number of things is claimed communication from the dead. So show me proof.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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#12
CDS, I had to edit your post for language--that was the only word I did anything to. And UNR has investigated many times.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

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#13
(06-22-2014, 09:28 AM)scarygirl67 Wrote: CDS, I had to edit your post for language--that was the only word I did anything to. And UNR has investigated many times.

But it's entirely ok for UNR to go and beat up a 16 year old who comes here because she's interested in becoming a paranormal investigator. See this is what I mean by the skeptics being favored here.
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#14
The rules specifically say to watch the language around here. Again, as I have said many times before, that rule was not put in place by me, it was put in place by administration of the original owner. I am just a moderator. There are several others, although most don't stop in as often as they used to.

There is nothing in the rules about blunt comments and that is UNR's style. Some like it, some don't, some could care less. Others have had issues with him, but I have to say you are the only one that ever thought the skeptics got preferential treatment. You know..all two of us.
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(06-22-2014, 06:42 PM)scarygirl67 Wrote: The rules specifically say to watch the language around here. Again, as I have said many times before, that rule was not put in place by me, it was put in place by administration of the original owner. I am just a moderator. There are several others, although most don't stop in as often as they used to.

There is nothing in the rules about blunt comments and that is UNR's style. Some like it, some don't, some could care less. Others have had issues with him, but I have to say you are the only one that ever thought the skeptics got preferential treatment. You know..all two of us.

It definitely carries weight when a moderator chimes in right along with someone who is belittling people...even kids. It does send a message that the site is biased in favor of the so-called skeptic. I would still say that UNR is not a skeptic, but a believer that there is no such thing as the paranormal.

The rules also say this...

"Personal attacks, name calling, flame wars and insulting will not be tolerated."

And that has been most definitely allowed, on many occasions...particularly from UNR and not only overlooked, but encouraged by you.
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#16
Well, all I can say is he has been the same for the last six years he has been on here. And yes, others have had issues. They were also allowed to speak their mind about it, as you have been allowed. I encourage discussion and you are obviously someone who will pick and choose what you want to see on here. There are so many threads where we do not participate at all. If we bother you that much, then feel free to visit those.

I'm done with this. Take what you want from this thread and if you want only comments that you like then I suggest you get yourself a blog if you don't already. You can control all comments yourself then.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

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#17
Ahh cheers Blaze,a good cup of java,a tussel here & there,& a great person to share it with.Yup mornings just keep getting better,& better.
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#18
LOL...S@d the tea/coffee where's the brandy!!.Smile
You walk in the long grass and wonder why you can not see!!
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#19
(06-20-2014, 06:44 AM)UglyNRude Wrote: Yes the equipment so many teams use to prove ghosts have been proven to not work they way claimed. We see something shown on tv and all these teams purchase one to prove ghosts. The sad part is teams do not properly learn their equipment. Even cameras and photography have become a joke.


Proven? Some joker comes up with stuff and bends it to conform to his beliefs and this is Gospel? I started laughing at the 2 minute mark. First, EMF meters do pick up signals for lack of better terms from a lot of stuff but ene at that you walk around and find the hot spots, you find the things giving off the signal, then when it changes, something has to be doing that. "Picks up signals from your skin". Really? That would make them ALL useless, even to electricians who use them regularly.

I quit watching there. Though this guy took a lot of time and effort in his fantasy clip, all he did was pick and choose what he needed to "prove" his position. Again, he's probably never gone out on an investigation, probably never used the equipment.

It was entertaining. I don't laugh much anymore but I got a few chuckles out of this.

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#20
Well at least you did watch the video. Now a meter that measures ELF Body voltage testing, also called skin voltage testing, is the most sensitive, accurate and helpful method available to detect low-level electric fields emitted from power lines, wiring, appliances, lights, computers and other common sources. Since your body is always "being" an antenna anyways — picking up AC voltages on your skin due to the AC electric fields around you. Now if you look at meters that indeed do pick up ELF how was he wrong? Hell many investigators do not know The difference from RF ELF, EMF, and VLF. Its how a pinging cell phone is shown on a k2 as a communication device.
I may add the elf also would be the type meter you would want to use to see if a client is having sensitivity to EMF. These will also pick up dirty electrical fields something many investigators know nothing about. We always had an electrician on our team, and yes he discovered many causes of the so called fear cage. Improperly grounded, wires laying on water pipes.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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