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winchester mystery house
#11
If this place was as haunted as they say, how come we haven't seen a slew of photos, videos, and whatnot from this place?
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#12
They did a bunch in the 70's. However, this proved to be worse for the site than a boon. There were more people too afraid to go in than there were interested enough to go. There are EVPs and whatnot, and there is an archive of recorded events on site that isn't available to the public. but I don't think there have been any recent expeditions with the modern equipment they have these days.
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(05-04-2016, 03:35 PM)Shiftkitty Wrote: They did a bunch in the 70's. However, this proved to be worse for the site than a boon. There were more people too afraid to go in than there were interested enough to go. There are EVPs and whatnot, and there is an archive of recorded events on site that isn't available to the public. but I don't think there have been any recent expeditions with the modern equipment they have these days.

Modern equipment? Can you name some?
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#14
I'm thinking mostly of the more sensitive recording equipment. I don't know how long you've been studying the paranormal, but back then they'd put microphones inside crystal glasses. This had some drawbacks, such as echoing every little noise (and the WMH sits on a very busy street), but in a truly secluded spot, like the Carolands Mansion, you could pick up some weird stuff. (Some of the Carolands sounds could be ascribed to animals or the wind rattling things just so, but some of it sounded close enough to voices to merit further investigation. Sadly, events conspired to keep us from going back.)

I'd like to see an even mix of believers and nay-sayers go through the Winchester house. They'd have to be level-headed about it, though. Too many believers see their own reflections and swear it was a ghost, while too many skeptics could be confronted by a full-bodied ghost howling at them and swear it was somehow really squirrels running on the roof or air in the plumbing.
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(05-06-2016, 08:04 AM)Shiftkitty Wrote: I'm thinking mostly of the more sensitive recording equipment. I don't know how long you've been studying the paranormal, but back then they'd put microphones inside crystal glasses. This had some drawbacks, such as echoing every little noise (and the WMH sits on a very busy street), but in a truly secluded spot, like the Carolands Mansion, you could pick up some weird stuff. (Some of the Carolands sounds could be ascribed to animals or the wind rattling things just so, but some of it sounded close enough to voices to merit further investigation. Sadly, events conspired to keep us from going back.)

I'd like to see an even mix of believers and nay-sayers go through the Winchester house. They'd have to be level-headed about it, though. Too many believers see their own reflections and swear it was a ghost, while too many skeptics could be confronted by a full-bodied ghost howling at them and swear it was somehow really squirrels running on the roof or air in the plumbing.
More sensitive recording devices? Have you bothered to read the manual your recorder comes with? Modern recording devices are known to pick up rf from not only radio but cable tv as well as cb. Plus radio and cell towers.

Sadly most... ghost hunters have no clue how their own equipment even works and many use it wrong.

http://thetruthaboutthewinchesterhouse.com/
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#16
Not wanting to turn this into a discussion of evidence, I'd like to state that my skeptical side isn't THAT negative, it's the "average" every day evidence that makes me groan. A researcher holding a recording device in his bare hand and brandishing it around really gets to me. Later, when that researcher plays back the recording and we hear 'scratch scratch scratch scratch scratchedy scratch" someone claims "did you hear that, the ghost said 'my name is Theodore Roosevelt.'" It makes my eyes roll every time.

The Winchester Mystery House, having been built in sections at random the way it was built will doubtless have hundreds of strange noises from settling, plumbing, expansion, wind currents, etc. Weeding through those noises would be a nightmare.
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#17
UglyNRude - I'm not a ghost hunter, only having done a few things in my distant past, but I have friends who are serious audiophiles. These guys know their stuff and when the subject of sensitive audio recordings came up in discussions, I defer to them for expertise. They laugh at a lot of EVPs and are quick to point out mundane sources and wishful thinking, but they aren't afraid to admit when something comes up that they can't so quickly identify.

Darkforeboding - Yeah, the TV shows often make me cringe. As for the Winchester House, creaks and scratches are one thing. Music from another room is something else, and that was heard by normal ears (and recordings are in the archives). Yes, it's a busy street out front, but I doubt anyone there or any other spot near the house would have been blasting "Hollyhock Lane" from their stereos. (For the record, none of the organs or pianos in the house were functioning when I worked there.) Creepy shapes in the shadows are easily dismissed as the brain filling in blanks. Hanson's house, sightings in the garden or at the front door by people who work there and are more focused on a paycheck than a ghost story, well, all I can say is go there and eve if you don't experience anything strange, enjoy the place.
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#18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Juc2cL26mg

They made it into a horror film. It looks pretty cheesy but I hope its just a bad trailer. I'm dying to see a film though there have been very few interesting films this year it feels like. Lets hope the reviews aren't rubbish.
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(04-20-2016, 09:21 AM)Lions_of_Tsavo Wrote:
(03-03-2014, 05:41 PM)JustTerri Wrote: Has anyone ever been there?  I want to go so bad. Have always been I rested since I saw rose red.

I grew up in the San Jose , CA area so I went to the Winchester house twice, when I was in my teens.

Meh.

Not really spooky at all. But weird.

Hallways and doors that lead nowhere. Lots of labyrinthian halls. Needless doors and rooms.

The story goes that Mrs. Winchester was of course the widow of the inventor of that eponymous rifle.

She felt ghosts of those the rifle had killed were haunting her.

So she went to a psychic who told her as long as she kept adding on to the house the ghosts would leave her alone.

I am not quite sure about the logic to this, but that is the story as best I can recall.

I never felt any strange vibes or presences there. At all.

Just an old weird rambling house built by a rich crazed guilt plagued womam.

(10-04-2015, 03:41 PM)Darkforeboding Wrote: I am hoping someone here will have additional information on the Winchester Mystery House.  I had an acquaintance in the Navy give me his opinion on it one time.  According to him the house was actually the result of the late Mrs. Winchester not wanting the people working on the house to be out of a job.  His story was that she had hired workers to build onto the house but the local economy had been poor and many of the workers didn't know if they could find work when the job was complete.  Mrs. Winchester began making up additional construction to prevent them from being unemployed.  Later as she grew older and began getting senile was when she turned heavily to spiritualism, began seeing ghosts, and began to believe that the ghosts were pursuing her from room to room.

Can anyone corroborate this story?

No..there is more to the story as to why the crazy labyrinth house was built like that.

See my OP.

Thanks!

Hi,
I've been to the house twice and I wasn't impressed with it myself.  I, too, am a sensitive but didn't pick up on anything.  I have more luck picking up on spirits just being out and about.  I admit the architecture of the house is weird and I heard too that Mrs. Winchester kept building to appease the spirits of people who were killed by the Winchester rifles.  It's a good place to check out though if you're in California.
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#20
Hi,
I've been to the house twice and I wasn't impressed with it myself. I, too, am a sensitive but didn't pick up on anything. I have more luck picking up on spirits just being out and about. I admit the architecture of the house is weird and I heard too that Mrs Winchester kept building to appease the spirits of people who were killed by the Winchester rifles. It's a good place to check out though if you're in California. The house itself is interesting to see first hand.
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