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Can a Demons Presence Make You Sick?
Wow. This story moved me to tears. I'm sorry you have been going through this, and I will pray for you and your family. I know it can be so rough to keep your faith, but that is what is at stake here. I have experienced that negative cloud that you are talking about, and the unexplained illnesses.
I don't think your friend is trying to contact you, but I do believe that a demonic presence is trying to make you think that. It has you reliving the pain and guilt from that experience and it is playing you. Demons feed on anything negative and will shake your faith to it's very core. KEEP PRAYING NO MATTER WHAT! Demons want us to think that God has given up on us and cannot help. They can be very convincing, as you have seen. Please keep us up to date. Reply soon.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

Thank you. I have a lot of faith....but I didn't consider this as being an indirect attack. I've many episodes of other past events enter my mind over the past few weeks...many that have moved me to tears. I'm dealing with a lot of anxiety and depression right now...actually it started about a year ago when my husband had to leave for a year. He wasn't forced to go...but he agreed that he needed the help and I stood by him as I felt that I vowed before God "through sickness and in health till death do us part". My parents pastor told me he was proud of me. I love God with all my heart and I am aware that I am under attack as my parents and I have not been getting along lately because they don't understand what I am going through emotionally or the fact that I allowed my husband to come back home (they are still very angry with him and would rather we just get divorced). I have come to believe this is part of the demonic attack as the demons are trying to use my family to get to me so I have forgiven them for this. I did not however consider until your post that the demon or demons were coming after me in this manner as well. I know the fire in my home happened about a week after I hung up a copy of the ten commandments in my office. My secretary told me that I was under attack and I believe it. There is evidence of a spiritual war that occurred in the room that was on fire the very night of the fire. I don't know if you have read any of my other posts where I explained that my bible and picture of my deceased aunt that were in the room that caught on fire didn't burn while blinds and pictures melted on the wall on the other end of the house. What I had not posted was this: many years ago I had bought a book about candle magic and I had bought a bunch of candles. I read the book a little and decided that God might get mad if used this magic so I never did. I had gotten rid of any questionable books that I had about a year ago as I felt God wanted me to. I forgot about this book as it wasn't on the shelf but rather in box that contained the candles. After the fire when I went back into the house and room where I found my aunt's picture (the bible was at the bottom of the stairs as the firemen had brought it down along some other memorable items that they were trying to save for - pretty sweet of them). A few days later, as I was starting to go through the house to categorize and list my lost items for the insurance company I saw this candle box under the table in the bedroom. I was sure that when I opened the box is was going to be one giant blob of wax as it was only about a foot from the fire. The heat alone was very intense and we were later told that if we had been in that room 1-2 more minutes we all would have died. Anyways I opened this candle box and every candle was intact. Even the new candles that were still enclosed in plastic were not one bit melted.

When my best friend came to see the house she didn't want to enter the bedroom. She told me after she left the house that there was something very evil in that room.

I had just told someone here in this forum in a pm that I came to this forum searching for answers as I had been searching for over a year on the internet about demons...with no luck whatsoever. I finally had found a book on amazon about spiritual warfare. Funny thing is that when we moved to this temporary house and I finally got a chance to start searching again I found all kinds of things about demons...including this forum. I'm smart enough to know that this information didn't just suddenly appear. I think the presence in my home was preventing me from finding it....or at least something was. I came to this forum with questions. I had opinions that I have really began to express, but before entering this forum I was beginning to think maybe I was crazy. My family, friends and coworkers (employees) all look at me really strange when I try to talk about demons. Fortunately, my new secretary doesn't as she explained to me that there are few that really know the truth about these things. Even my best friend who believes in ghosts...questions my extreme theories. I found this forum and I began to realize that you all are like me. It's great and I feel very drawn to this. I look forward to seeing what others have to say everyday. I'm beginning to find that as I am reading and writing all of years of thoughts and theories are flowing out of me like crazy. It's like a part of me is opening up and I'm realizing that I know a lot more than I was giving myself credit for.

I do understand that I am under attack. I still don't know exactly why...I have wondered if it trying to make me lose my faith or my sanity one to try to stop something I am supposed to do. I have felt a calling all my life. I pray daily for the holy spirit to reveal my purpose to me. I realize though that God does things in his time not mine. I feel like what I am supposed to do right now is arm myself with all the knowledge about the spiritual world and the war that is taking place. I am supposed to look at both sides for knowledge only. I really don't think my faith can be shaken unfortunately my physical body is suffering as is my depression (I've been diagnosed with PTSD - post traumatic stress disorder due to the many years of trauma that I have suffered from over the years....probably the devil using people as is so often the case). I pray daily for relief from this. Perhaps, God is allowing this to happen as it might also be part of my training. I have accepted that if being a warrior (I was appointed this about 9-12 months ago while taking a retreat to a monastery) means that it is my purpose to fight these things than that is what I will do. God is my master so I have found acceptance and faith are what keep me going. The traumas that I have suffered have been a blessing in many ways as I am more humble and understanding of others. I really don't look for people to feel sorry for me...but I do get irritated at my clients and family that can't be a little more understanding that sometimes you can't just get back up the next day after being through a fire. Still I appreciate everyone's prayers and suggestions and advise as all of this helps my growth and guidance and training in my purpose that God will reveal to me in time.
I'm going to attempt to post a picture of the room that caught on fire.
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11
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This picture is the jewelry dresser that was beside my bible, it was moved to the bottom of the stairs by the firemen so that is were the pic was taken.

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This is the TV entertainment center that was 2 feet from the bed and right beside the box of candles.

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This picture is the wall behind my bed (bed was in drive way as it was 3/4 burned and firemen threw it out there).
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11
Hi WarriorClassic Smile
I feel the same way. I have been surfing this forum for the last two days, and I feel like people are actually listening to me without that "look" (you know the one; I used to look at my Uncle Ernie that way when he would put the aluminum helmet on his head).
You might consider Googling investigative teams in your area and have a full investigation done. I don't like seances or Ouija boards because a seance is to try to communicate with the spirit world and demonic energy can enter through that. Ouija boards are portals and should never be used. Let me know if there's anything I can do and I will pray for you and your family every day.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

Don't pick any team as there are a great deal of teams that are doing it because they saw it on tv and haven't a clue of whats evidence. If you need help picking one let me know.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
Hey there again. I actually was taking to someone on this forum about it and then I ran into a person...well actually my sister sent me to talk to her and she is a paranormal investigator. I called her and were supposed to get together soon to talk about my issues and cleansing my home before we move back in. She has said we will be placing salt around the home and burying crystals in the four corners of my property as part of the protection for the future.
(05-31-2009, 04:36 PM)UglyNRude Wrote: Don't pick any team as there are a great deal of teams that are doing it because they saw it on tv and haven't a clue of whats evidence. If you need help picking one let me know.

Ok...this one is called "Kentucky Society For Paranormal Research" The woman seems to have studied this her entire life. If this is not a suitable choice, please let me know as it must be done.
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11
Hello again. I sent thanks to UglyNRude because that is so true. I should have said that myself, so sorry about that. You can never be too careful.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

If you already have a paranormal investigator I won't recommend someone else yet. Talk to them and if it seems like a good fit for you then use them. I didn't find a web page for them with the name I got so if you private message it to me when you get it. They sound more like a psychic team with the burying of crystals. I myself prefer a scientific based team but with what you have posted you may like them. Remember you need to like them and they have to ok you based on an interview.
If you don't like them then contact me then and I will locate one for you. I have looked at a few and have a couple in mind. Here is a pre investigation interview form so you have an idea of what they should ask you.

If you have microsoft word you can download a form on my page.
PRE-Interview Application
Investigation #_____________________ Date __________________________________________
Contact info:____________________________________________Ph:________________________
Property Address___________________________________________________________________
Property type Residential, Business ________________________________________________ Date of occupancy at property_____________________________________________________
Are you the first owners YES NO (previous owners name)______________________________________
Date activity first noticed____________________________________________________________
If Residential, Bedrooms __________Bathrooms _________ Floors_____________________
Living areas _________Basement ______Crawlspace _________Attic ____________________
Public Water ________Well __________Public Sewer _________ Septic Tank ___________
Buildings on property______________________________________________________________
Known history of property_________________________________________________________
Are there any secret or blocked off spaces in the building YES NO
Have you done any renovation on the property? NO YES (please explain)
Any known deaths on property NO YES (names if known)_____________________________________
Is there specific areas of activity ? NO YES (please explain)_____________________________________
Have you found any left behind possessions from previous owners? NO YES
Are there other people with access to your home?
NO YES ( Who)___________________________________________________________________
Does your basement flood? NO YES (please explain)
Have you talked to any of your neighbors about the activity? NO YES
Their comments as best you can remember. ___________________________________
Have you had any strange animals get into your home? NO YES (Where)____________________________ Bat Cat Rat Mouse Raccoon Squirrel
Do you have any known dangerous chemicals in the home? NO YES (where are they stored)________________________________________________________________________________

Have you had the property blessed? NO YES
If yes by who_______________________________________________________________________
Do you ever feel compelled to do things you wouldn’t normally do? NO YES
Have you ever sat things down only to come back shortly and find them missing or moved? NO YES
Do you believe in ghosts? NO YES
Have you always believed in paranormal activities. NO YES
Do you believe you have any sort of special abilities? NO YES
Has anyone else not from this address experienced this? NO YES
For parents: Do your children get along well? NO YES
Do your children do ok in school? NO YES
Have the children seemed depressed or more quiet lately? NO YES
Do any of the children report having imaginary friends? NO YES (names)
Has anyone every used a Ouija board, NO YES?
Have you ever used any street drugs? NO YES
Would you consider yourself to be religious? NO AVERAGE VERY
How would you desribe the stress in your life? NONE AVERAGE EXTREME
Ever hear any unusual sounds in the house, footsteps, voices, NO YES
Ever notice any unusually cold areas on the property? NO YES
Have you seen an apparition on the property? NO YES
Have you seen any objects moving by themselves? NO YES
Do you have pets on the property? NO YES ________________________________________________________
Have you noticed any odd behavior from pets? NO YES
Are there any graves on the property that you are aware of? NO YES

Have you any idea or opinion on who or what could be haunting you? NO YES

Have you had any other paranormal team here? NO YES
______________________________________________________________________________________Their findings. _______________________________________________________________________

Could you tell us why you think you need an investigation? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Can you draw a quick sketch of the inside of the building where most of the activity seems to be concentrated.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
Thank you. I am in the middle of uploading a bunch of photos onto photobucket. I got a little irritated earlier when I was simply trying to get 3 pages on this site...and something kept messing with my mouse. I decided that since the presence around me didn't want those photos uploaded that I would take a closer look. I have some very interesting photos to show all of you. It's taking awhile as Kodak software really is not very user friendly. I am uploading them now and I will attempt to draw arrows to the things I see...I've never done this before so I hope everyone bears with me. Anyways I will notify many of you when I post this thread.
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11
I remember when I had my first encounter with a demon the smell was so horrid I couldn't stand it.. I had to leave the room, thats when I was using a Ouija board with my old ex friends.. and one of them decided to ask if demons really existed ( which was a very stupid thing to do) and that's when it happened.

I've never for one moment showed dis belief for demons and ghosts. I've always believed in them.
Butterfly Life is not measured by how many breaths you take, but by how many moments in life that take your breath away.

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