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Mystery of the Mary Celeste....I love this mystery of the sea!
#11
Thanks for putting me right there. I've read all the links and I've got my wires crossed somewhere - please accept my apologies. I will look into this further to see where I got the notion from and post in due course.

Thanks again everyone Icontexto-emoticons-03-032x032

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#12
No worries, DB! Smile

It's such a fascinating story. Ever since I was a child it caught my attention. I know the plausible theories aren't anything to do with ghost ships or aliens lol, but even still, the story sent a shiver down my spine when my dad recounted it whilst we were on a boat at sea!
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#13
DB, what it shows me is that you look for the truth behind the legend..and that says a lot to me. And who knows what really happened there, because there really has been a lot of misinformation.
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#14
Thanks Scary & Fiona. I was initially looking at the story that grew up around the Marie Celeste not the real Mary Celeste. I think my posting finger went off too soon Icontexto-emoticons-04-032x032

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#15
Most possible Alien abduction... it is not to rarely that people just disappear with no trace at all.... Great mystery thou!
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#16
(01-23-2011, 11:08 AM)UglyNRude Wrote: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste The Mary Celeste started with a interesting background as the ship Amazon. It supposedly had three captains die aboard her, fires, accidents. It was later salvaged and renamed Mary Celeste.
There is a superstition that renaming a vessel is a bad omen.
In the days of sail, renamed ships would have a hard time getting crewed.
Many renamed ships fell on hard times,but I've never seen a study on any percentages.
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#17
What I've read on the ship supports what UNR posted-- an explosion fueled by alcohol aboard the ship.

You guys have pretty much covered all the details.
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#18
one detail not mentioned was the the ship disappeared while sailing through the Sargasso Sea, which just happens to lie within the supposed boundary of the Bermuda Triangle....


the alcohol theory sounds as good as any....though I am wondering that, if the seas were calm, as stated elsewhere...why were the people who seemingly took the lifeboats and abandoned ship never found and rescued? What happened to them and the lifeboats? Maybe a rogue wave could have capsized them all, i guess....though that does seem like rather alot of bad coincidences all coalescing around an event.
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#19
Not everything that goes out to the sea comes back and not everything that comes back goes to the right place.
Back then, before camera's were common, a person could disappear without a trace simply by moving location. Unless they had a detailed image of a person it's harder to identify.
My theories are these:
  • The life boat capsizes due to over capacity. They're left floating, hoping for help. It may be possible that a pirate vessel rescues them afterward or they just died. If their bodies washed ashore they may have been unrecognisable due to decomposition and being eaten, alive or dead, by hungry fish. Death could have come from any combination of hypothermia, drowning, Jellyfish and predatory fish, pirates or even each other. They would have floated with the tides and the ship will have gone with the wind and so may not have ended up in the same place, if they washed ashore at all.
  • The boat didn't capsize. They float along the sea, waiting for land. With the calm seas they would have had a fair wait. Rowing is hard. Some may not have made it to land if they had to resort to cannibalism. If they didn't and landed on an island they may have been killed by the locals or resorted to cannibalism. The last man standing would be driven insane. Not a nice scenario.
  • Perhaps they disappeared with the intention of disappearing. Although I've heard no reason why they would but perhaps some crew members were involved in crime and decided to make a break for it, leaving the ship a fair way from a known port and made their way towards it.
  • Piracy. Now hear me out on this one. It wasn't uncommon for a sailor to opt for a life of crime and cruelty. Coming across a ship one day, they jump ship, murder those not willing to join them and enter a life of piracy. The good life.
  • Aliens. When all else fails go for the out there option. Aliens or Bermuda phenomenon. Whatever tickles your fancy. Besides Alien abduction is so much cooler and more interesting than the above theories.
Although abduction might be cooler I think the first and second are more likely.
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(08-21-2013, 08:03 AM)the_wonderful_fairy Wrote: Not everything that goes out to the sea comes back and not everything that comes back goes to the right place.
Back then, before camera's were common, a person could disappear without a trace simply by moving location. Unless they had a detailed image of a person it's harder to identify.
My theories are these:
  • The life boat capsizes due to over capacity. They're left floating, hoping for help. It may be possible that a pirate vessel rescues them afterward or they just died. If their bodies washed ashore they may have been unrecognisable due to decomposition and being eaten, alive or dead, by hungry fish. Death could have come from any combination of hypothermia, drowning, Jellyfish and predatory fish, pirates or even each other. They would have floated with the tides and the ship will have gone with the wind and so may not have ended up in the same place, if they washed ashore at all.
  • The boat didn't capsize. They float along the sea, waiting for land. With the calm seas they would have had a fair wait. Rowing is hard. Some may not have made it to land if they had to resort to cannibalism. If they didn't and landed on an island they may have been killed by the locals or resorted to cannibalism. The last man standing would be driven insane. Not a nice scenario.
  • Perhaps they disappeared with the intention of disappearing. Although I've heard no reason why they would but perhaps some crew members were involved in crime and decided to make a break for it, leaving the ship a fair way from a known port and made their way towards it.
  • Piracy. Now hear me out on this one. It wasn't uncommon for a sailor to opt for a life of crime and cruelty. Coming across a ship one day, they jump ship, murder those not willing to join them and enter a life of piracy. The good life.
  • Aliens. When all else fails go for the out there option. Aliens or Bermuda phenomenon. Whatever tickles your fancy. Besides Alien abduction is so much cooler and more interesting than the above theories.
Although abduction might be cooler I think the first and second are more likely.

Yep, I'd think pirates took them in, or took them out.
The Bermuda Triangle/aliens theory is interesting though. lol
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